Ultralight Hammock Gear Sub-Forum

[Cranky Bear]

Interesting topic, but I foresee a slight problem with a UL sub forum, it wouldn't be just one, it would have to end up being many! For instance, Weather protection, this forum topic is broad and general and encompass pretty much everything to keep our living space in the woods dry and in this topic are a LOT of threads on the subject, so, you would have to have a sub-sub forum in Weather Protection denoted just for UL Weather Protection! Then you would need one for Insulation (top and bottom), one for Suspension, one for???, you get it, so I think with the set-up of the forum as it is, and as well rooted it is, it would be nearly impossible (notice I said "nearly" as nothing is impossible) to re-arrange the entire forum to add this sub to every main topic!

Although I will say that I like the presented idea and having all the information in its own sub-sub-forum or spot, but I find that the set-up as it is now very easy to follow! But as already stated, if everyone was to put a UL, or SUL in the title, then when you do a search it would bring all of them up??

[Ewker]

no need for it...IMO

[Cannibal]

Like I said, it's something I believe to be worth fighting for

This isn't something you're 'fighting for'. It's just your opinion on organizing things. We hear you. But please remember that HF isn't about lightweight hiking...that's just one facet of the larger picture.

Also please remember that all the new lightweight gear you mentioned that has been developed and discussed has done so in the context we already have.

All the discussion you want is already here. We're just not going to organize it as lightweight-centric. All the mods (and many members) have agreed that isn't the best course.

[thegreatjesse]

I'd love to see an UL subforum. I'm always looking to shed a few ounces, and with the incredible number of cottage makers creating and selling their wares, it can be difficult to find the lightest, most reliable option for any given piece of kit.

As for logistics, searching for "UL" or "SUL" provides no results, because the query is too short. So if I started a thread titled "SUL Suspension System," the only way to find that thread (short of browsing for it) would be to search "suspension system" or search by OP. How many threads do you think exist with "suspension system" in the title? 29.

I like the idea, and would love to see it properly implemented. That being said, I recognize the potential for confusion, though I don't imagine there would be much difficulty if a simple "Ultralight" subforum were added to each of the primary section. (i.e. an "Ultralight" section beneath the "Suspension Systems, Ridgelines, and Bug Nets" section).

[kayak karl]

some have already mentioned "pack weight". HF is not a backpacking site. its about the hammock, which many of use on our adventure of all kinds. some say there is not a need, my fear is it will become "my pack is lighter then your pack" forum. others mentioned "experts". we are all STILL learning. this is just my opinion from reading other sites for 5 years. i have lowered my hammock weight greatly. zero degree setup went from 9 lb to sub 5. i learned that here on HF.

have fun hanging, WHEREVER
KK&K

[kgbenson]

I'm satisfied with their definition but as hammockers we will have to find our own.

Why? Who needs the definitions/ You carry the number of grams you carry, regardless of some arbitrary weight designation.

Keith

[Theo]

This isn't something you're 'fighting for'. It's just your opinion on organizing things. We hear you. But please remember that HF isn't about lightweight hiking...that's just one facet of the larger picture.

Also please remember that all the new lightweight gear you mentioned that has been developed and discussed has done so in the context we already have.

All the discussion you want is already here. We're just not going to organize it as lightweight-centric. All the mods (and many members) have agreed that isn't the best course.

Those are my sentiments, also.

As far as the search function here goes, I haven't found a search function yet that thinks the way I think. The fastest way I've found to find some thing here is to just ask. Someone here will point you in the right direction.

[kayak karl]

Those are my sentiments, also.

As far as the search function here goes, I haven't found a search function yet that thinks the way I think. The fastest way I've found to find some thing here is to just ask. Someone here will point you in the right direction.

your right. many tread title are made to be funny and not able to be searched. maybe somebody should start a thread on "How title your thread to make it searchable"

[JayS]

Rook - good for you for advocating for something in which you believe! That's the way things happen.

That said, maybe a good solution would be to combine AngrySparrow's idea (which I support) with tagging and a better search mechanism. It seems as if someone posted recently how to search HF using Google. (The search term was something like "site:hammockforums.net phrase to be searched" but I don't really remember.)

Maybe the tagging option could have a framework such as "If the tag is too short, add enough "2s" to the end of the tag to make a total of six characters." So "UL" would be tagged as "UL2222" and "SUL" would become "SUL222", etc. That way at least you could tag threads for the appropriate topic and it could be used for other topics than just UL ones. I know it's a workaround and not the best but maybe something like this could work, at least until better tagging and search capabilities were available.

I too would like to be able to slice and dice the forum to see what I want to see and nothing else but not at the expense of separate UL subforums for each, or many, forum topic.

[R00K]

Well - despite what I say, or think, I've been politely told "No" by the mods. So that about sums it up.

Just be aware that you have a passionate and unsettled hammock enthusiast on your hands...

...and that this isn't over