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  1. #31
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  2. #32

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    I have used whoopie slings and tree straps on all of my DIY hammocks and find them very easy to use and don't really understand all of the comments about "fiddle factor".

    I just got a new WBBB with their style of strap and cinch buckle suspension. I truly wanted to like the suspension. However, so far I hate everything about the strap/cinch buckle suspension and think it is the system with way too much "fiddle factor" and difficulty of use with cold hands.

    I love the hammock and hate the suspension. I will make whoopies and install them tomorrow.

  3. #33
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    Quote Originally Posted by floorman View Post
    I like the whoopies better. i can set my straps and then set the whoopies with one hand while keeping every thing off the ground with the other. as far as minimum hanging, you can hang as close to the tree as you like. set your straps up with the MSH wrapped around the tree so that your toggle sit at the front plane, or to the side of the tree just behind the side where will hang your hammock. if you have a short loop on your hammock, you loop that over your toggle and the end of the hammock could be touching the trees. this could give a shorter hanging distance than straps and buckles.
    I didn't get that. How can you stick to the tree with a whoopie sling ? Anyone has a picture ?

  4. #34
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    Just ordered three BB's and upgraded to the Whoopie Slings after watching Brandon's video on adjusting them both. Seems like the whoopies are simpler and they are lighter too for backpacking. Then I started looking at all the Dutch bling for our tarps and got a headache. Hahahaha!!! I just ordered tarp flies with line attached for the tarps. I picked up some four packs of those niteeyes figure 9 gizmos with line attached to use with the hex tarp tieouts. I can always upgrade to Dutchwear at some point. Love my titanium goodness!!
    I spend more time making stuff than I do using it all!

    www.wildcherrywoodworks.com (my business)
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  5. #35
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    I've just posted a short article and video dealing with the problem of short hangs and whoopie slings here- Hammocking Hack: Becket Hitch

    HTH!

  6. #36
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    Quote Originally Posted by johnspenn View Post
    I've just posted a short article and video dealing with the problem of short hangs and whoopie slings here- Hammocking Hack: Becket Hitch

    HTH!
    Thanks a lot, that helps ! No need to carry long tree straps...

  7. #37
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    I use whoopie sling suspension with tree huggers/ Dutch clips
    Pro's
    wt. 4oz. total for both dutch hooks, whoopie slings, whoopie hooks, and 5' tree huggers
    CL's are cheaper to replace than a whole strap
    less of a water magnet during rain storms
    easier to hook around a tree, no feed through
    takes up less pack space
    has built in drip line
    no freezer burns in winter
    holds less water when saturated
    can easily secure the extra unused bitter end

    Cons
    woopie slings sounds like a xxx swing
    cant be use as a thick belt
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  8. #38

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    Quote Originally Posted by gmcttr View Post
    I have used whoopie slings and tree straps on all of my DIY hammocks and find them very easy to use and don't really understand all of the comments about "fiddle factor".

    I just got a new WBBB with their style of strap and cinch buckle suspension. I truly wanted to like the suspension. However, so far I hate everything about the strap/cinch buckle suspension and think it is the system with way too much "fiddle factor" and difficulty of use with cold hands.

    I love the hammock and hate the suspension. I will make whoopies and install them tomorrow.
    That's why I swapped out my suspension to a full 1/8 Dutch CL and two descender rings on each CL.The new Dutch dyneema straps are pretty awesome imho and the rings are plenty easy to separate,even with gloves on.

  9. #39
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    I use whoopies and recently experienced something I had never heard of on this forum: one of the trees I hang to was a very undersized tree, which means my hammock was really sagging when I got into it. For all the parameters, I had to hang very close to the ground, and when I woke up in the middle of the night, I noticed my hammock actually had LOWERED about 2 or 3 inches! I can attribute this only to the woopie not holding firm enough with the rocking of the hammock (although there really wasn't any if I wasn't moving in the hammock). Luckily there was no wind that night, otherwise I might have waken up on the boggy ground with my uq wet!

    Any of you experienced something like that ?

    Would cinch buckles hold better in such circumstances ?
    Last edited by Rouskof; 02-27-2017 at 02:58.

  10. #40

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    Really small trees will will bend toward the hammock when you get in. You can compensate somewhat by hanging it at less than the normal angle (tighter) and also higher than usual.

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