morning pains

**Red Wing** · 12-28-2011, 20:08

Originally Posted by kbajg

I haven't had horrible bladder pains but i do find i have to go a lot more often when sleeping in a hammock in colder weather. The other night it was 4-times I thought this is crazy then my buddy who slept the first night in his hammock told me he had to go 7-times. We were only drinking water & hot cocoa. I thought it was due to body position but like someone mentioned it is probably due to the coldness/temperature.

I think that's why I go more when I camp.. I find that if I'm toasty warm and comfortable I can sleep all night, if not I wake up then have to pee.

Isn't Billybob a surgeon? Seem to remember him having to go to some other town on a medical mission. Am I wrong Billbo?

**Roadrunnr72** · 12-28-2011, 20:19

I was just starting to get into hammocks, we had a campout with the scouts. I was unsure whether I would have somewhere to hang, so I stuck with tradition and sleep in one of the canvas t**ts on a cot. I had to get up about 5 times that night and go. Never before had this happened. Most times I can get up once, at most. Then I'm good for the night. I have had it happen a few times since. Not getting up 5 times, but a few anyway. And noticed that it only happens when camping and it's cold out.

Hope you get it figured out.

**Dudorino** · 12-28-2011, 20:50

I'll be back in a couple of minutes... just reading this makes me want to go.....

**BillyBob58** · 12-28-2011, 22:47

Originally Posted by Slo

I think that's why I go more when I camp.. I find that if I'm toasty warm and comfortable I can sleep all night, if not I wake up then have to pee.

Isn't Billybob a surgeon? Seem to remember him having to go to some other town on a medical mission. Am I wrong Billbo?

No, I just spend my day watching surgeons ( including urologists etc) work. I provide the oblivion of general or deep sedation and or "comfortably numb" of the epidurals or spinal. IOW, anesthesia. Put 'em to sleep. Then more importantly, keep 'em alive and wake 'em up.

Originally Posted by Roadrunnr72

I was just starting to get into hammocks, we had a campout with the scouts. I was unsure whether I would have somewhere to hang, so I stuck with tradition and sleep in one of the canvas t**ts on a cot. I had to get up about 5 times that night and go. Never before had this happened. Most times I can get up once, at most. Then I'm good for the night. I have had it happen a few times since. Not getting up 5 times, but a few anyway. And noticed that it only happens when camping and it's cold out.

Hope you get it figured out.

The cold is no doubt a major factor, IMO and based on my experience. I'm about to be 63, but when I was a 35 year old whippersnapper, I found out about this relationship. Though it took many years to know for sure there was a def relationship. I was on a NOLS course in WY, and on June 27 we hiked all day and did our first Tyrolean Traverse river crossing during a storm with over a foot of blowing snow followed by 24F. Long story short, I shivered all night. The worst part of it was having to get up 4 or 5 times, exit the tarp I shared with 2 others and pee. By the 3rd time or so my boots were frozen solid and I could only get my toes in good. Anyway, I was cols and I was peeing a lot. Normal would have been zero to one time, not 5. I think even an un-noticeable amount of cold = peeing more.

How is this relevant to the OP? jons4real, are you sleeping inside? Are you using something to keep your back warm even inside? If outside, are you staying plenty warm including your back/kidney area?

But, jons4real is having bad bladder pain, not just having to go "right now". So a Doc visit might well be a good idea. But, if it has never happened except in a hammock? And if cold causes a great increase in urine output, and you are sleeping way deep, that bladder could be quite distended after 8 hrs. The cure ( so far at least) is avoiding the hammock, but of course you don't want that. The cure might be simply warming up in the hammock or even just warming up the kidney area. I wouldn't wait too long before having a doc check you out. But me personally, I'd make sure it is not hammock induced cold ( or whatever hammock caused problem) causing the problem before subjecting myself to medical expense and possibly invasive testing. It would be a shame to do all that if it was indeed just related to being very slightly cold in a hammock. Then again, if it continues don't wait forever to seek medical help.

Any one else here had actual bladder area pain from having to go real bad, or after sleeping in a hammock or being cold camping?

**jons4real** · 12-28-2011, 23:13

I have been sleeping inside. Although my basement is probably in the 50's I've been trying different ways to keep warm both times it happened I was on top of a normal bedroom quilt with a 50 degree bag on top. If I don't sleep on something I freeze in my basement. As far as the pain goes its more like drinking a case of anything and waiting as long as you can to relieve your self. As soon as I go to the bathroom I find immediate relief .

**DavyRay** · 12-28-2011, 23:20

The cautious approach is to see a doctor. This may be a symptom of a problem developing. Whatever the hammock difference is, you don't want this to get worse. The suggestions about temperature are good, but decide how long to try an insulator pad before acting on this.

I am not a doctor. I will not charge you for advice. Don't sue me.

**OutandBack** · 12-29-2011, 00:44

I usually have to get out of the hammock and water the trees 3-4 times a night.
I always though it was because I had been hiking and drinking 4-5 times the normal amount of water I do at home.
I have experienced bladder pain if I ignore the urge and go back to sleep.
Now I just get out of the hammock at the first sign.

Oh, This happens year round for me. Typical summer nite in the Mtns is 45F and winter is 20F. Hung as low as -19F. No additional bathroom breaks were required.
hth

**exup** · 12-29-2011, 01:08

Happens to me nearly everytime. Even after I pee the pain will stay a bit. I think its a multitude of things with me. I don't drink nearly enough water on the trail so I doubt its that, but physical activity seems to rise the need to urinate for me. I think the cold plays a role and possibly an underlying nervousness I feel like I've got over while being in the wilderness.

I drink far more water at home and never have to wake up and go.

**keikepono** · 12-29-2011, 01:48

I have had this twice also, I have it when its really cold outside, I don't have an under quilt of any sorts and its only happened on the colder trips, but both times I was either by a large river or the ocean, so it might have been that also

**JohnSawyer** · 12-29-2011, 02:25

I don't have bladder "pain" though when I sleep outdoors in a hammock I definitely wake up at some point to pee. Warm and comfortable in my bed, I can go all night without the need to befriend a baby tree...

When sleeping on the ground in one of those nylon dome thingies, I don't get up to pee, but I don't get much sleep either...