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    2012, time for something NEW!

    Hi everybody,

    We would like to introduce to you our new suspension device:



    Ultralight and UV-resistant hooks (glass fiber reinforced polyamide)!

    L = 3,95 inches / 10 cm

    H = 0.35 inch / 9 mm

    W = 0,064 lb / 29 gram

    Tested at 500 Kg. / 1100lb - burst moment

    Price per set (including global shipping, without ropes)) will be US$ 12,50

    Simply send an email to info@planethammock.nl if you like to purchase
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    A video showing their use would be beneficial here. What is the breaking strength of the rope in the pictures?

    Cheers

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    Dunno, ropes are NOT included!

    Quote Originally Posted by BrianWillan View Post
    A video showing their use would be beneficial here. What is the breaking strength of the rope in the pictures?

    Cheers

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    You're halfway to something brilliant there,....I've been wondering about a gizmo that will eliminate the Hennessy figure 8 lashing, like it appears that would, but then have a provision to accept tree straps on the other side.
    I realize there are other ways to do this involving changing the suspension, but some are fine with rope.

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    Well, the thing is that there are two groups of users:

    - die hards - every weekend in the woods - hammockers
    - recreational hammockers... lazy and not interested in tech stuff

    But to get them both satisfied and find a 'commercial product' is very hard! Also the investment of research and making a mould cost a lot of $$$ and one has to find a way to make it proffitable at the end.

    I think that this solution isn't to bad and it will proof itself.
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    I wondered myself how this would be used. Looking at the "Flyer" from the planethammock site it is clear that the PH hammocks have hooks attached to the ends of the hammock, so I guess that's the mental picture here of use. Don't know what ships with these hammocks w.r.t. the rest of the suspension, some of the other PH images show what seems to be pretty fat rope wrapped around the tree.

    I'm confident HF-ers can find a use for this device. But for me, any application where I could use this I could also use a Camp Nano 23 carabiner, which is stronger than this, and if the listed 29g is for a single clip, lighter. Nano 23 costs $7 before shipping, so this clip costs less, particularly when you include shipping costs for the carabiner.

    YMMV
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    So are these like plastic elephant trunks but instead of tree straps they use rope?

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    Quote Originally Posted by packeagle View Post
    So are these like plastic elephant trunks but instead of tree straps they use rope?
    Yep, that's it!
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    I haven't figured out how these are used. I need a photo of them in use. Thanks

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    Not interested in a urinating match here.

    Just some clarification of what I said before. You use rope on your suspension. Fine. Your business, your call, your customers. You have a model of how to hang and have made a device for it. There are other models. A common belief around HF is that for a variety of reasons it is good to use webbing around the tree, even if the rest of the suspension is rope of any kind. A goodly number of camping hammock makers make the suspension from webbing.Clark. Claytor. Warbonnet. Jacks 'R Better. Tree-to-Tree. Your hook can be used if people want when they have tree straps, but not solely with what you provide. Some cord and some other device (which might be as simple as a toggle for a marlin spike hitch) would be used.

    Your price of $12.50 shipped for a pair of hooks is a good one, considering you're in the Netherlands. A price of $7 for one Camp Nano biner is also a good one, a pair then for $14. The difference---shipping. If someone wants to pay as much as you cite for shipping two devices, well it's a free country. But it is a well known phenomena that you can amortize shipping costs when you have orders with multiple things in them. Some of the sites that offer these biners will also give you free shipping if your order is large enough, usually around $50. It's not hard to make a $50 order of outdoor gear! So that's the way I, and other cost-conscience consumers purchase gear.

    Finally in answer to your question, why would I want something stronger than 1000 lbs test weight? This is safe enough in most applications, but there are complicated forces in hammock suspensions, easy ways to multiply them, and peak dynamic loads can be uncomfortably close to 1000 lbs depending on what you're doing in the hammock, e.g., someone heavy dropping into it and there is tightly tensioned structural ridgeline. So for me, at 200 lbs dripping wet on the scale, when it is easy and cheap and lighter to use something that is stronger than 1000 lbs, I will. Hang your own hang, but make sure your health and life insurance premiums are paid up first.
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