It all started with You Tube came across Shug's video's, laughed my butt off and decided to make my own hammock. I have used them backpacking as a lounger that others have brought but never slept in it. Now I am sold! The ground is for those that don't understand.... I learned a ton of information from the Forums so thank you for that. I look forward to meeting some of you on the trail or who now's where.