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    Extreme cold lesson learned by me on this trip:

    UQ suspension (aka shock cord) will lose its stretchiness in extreme cold and doesn't snug up as well. In the wee hours of the morning, I started getting a bit of CBS as the suspension stretched out but was too stiff and cold to keep tension on my UQs The solution is to readjust/tighten, but I didn't fully realize what was going on in my half-awake state. It never got really bad, just not as warm as when I first got into the hammock.

    FWIW, I had a zero degree full-length Hammock Gear UQ, with a 20 degree 3/4 length Hammock Gear on top (outside) of that. The extra length of the shock cord suspension for the 3/4 length was the culprit behind my slight CBS! I had enough insulation, but it needs to be "tight"!
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    I am envious of all who made the hang. ... almost makes me want to move back to Minnesota.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BillyBob58 View Post
    I see that while some slept plenty warm, a couple of guys slept kind of cold. Which is hard to understand if it was only minus 19.8, what could the problem have been? (wink,wink) But we might benefit and get an education to see what the problems were. Just an individual think, with some really cold sleepers vs hot sleepers? Did any one go to bed already too cold or without enough hot food in them?

    Or was it gear related? What do they think they could add or do different next time to be warmer?
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    Quote Originally Posted by beep View Post
    Extreme cold lesson learned by me on this trip:

    UQ suspension (aka shock cord) will lose its stretchiness in extreme cold and doesn't snug up as well. In the wee hours of the morning, I started getting a bit of CBS as the suspension stretched out but was too stiff and cold to keep tension on my UQs The solution is to readjust/tighten, but I didn't fully realize what was going on in my half-awake state. It never got really bad, just not as warm as when I first got into the hammock.

    FWIW, I had a zero degree full-length Hammock Gear UQ, with a 20 degree 3/4 length Hammock Gear on top (outside) of that. The extra length of the shock cord suspension for the 3/4 length was the culprit behind my slight CBS! I had enough insulation, but it needs to be "tight"!
    Quite a few people had that problem the same night you were out.
    It was great you made it out there for a night and we'll have to plan something for the future. I already miss the trail.

    Quote Originally Posted by obxh2o View Post
    I am envious of all who made the hang. ... almost makes me want to move back to Minnesota.
    haha I hear you. We had people coming from all over the place to make this hang. We had such an awesome group of hangers.

    Fronkey

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    I think we should have had a trade table with the vendors we had there....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fronkey View Post
    Everyone but 4 of us hung outside the 2nd night. That's why I put it in the video that a few others and I were in there. We were up late in the morning playing cards and didn't want to make the brutal walk back to the hammocks when we were already falling asleep.
    That, and the Dewars.

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    looked like an awesome time. sad i missed it. i'll get there after some more gearing up. looked like a great time.

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    Holy crap! Looks like y’all had a GREAT time! (Although cheating a wee bit the second night lol I would have too!) Very nice spoons Fronkey and Thing1 made! How long did they take to make?
    I hope to have the pleasure of joining ya one year… soon.
    Keep bringing us your entertaining videos Fronkey! Love them just as much as Shug’s! The 16 minutes felt like forever! ****! Just kidding… I did a double take at the time marker cause it went by so fast...
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    Awesome video ... Burrrrrrrr....! Not, with all that Down ... and Hammock Socks! Have to make me one of those ....! thanks Fronkey!
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    Quote Originally Posted by beep View Post
    Extreme cold lesson learned by me on this trip:

    UQ suspension (aka shock cord) will lose its stretchiness in extreme cold and doesn't snug up as well. In the wee hours of the morning, I started getting a bit of CBS as the suspension stretched out but was too stiff and cold to keep tension on my UQs
    Paul at AHE once told me that it's better to use polyester shock cord (not the common nylon) in deep winter because it doesn't lose it's stretch in the bitter cold like nylon. The polyester cord weighs a little more than the nylon variety but worth it in those conditions.
    Mike
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