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    what is everybodies favorite 3/4 under quilt

    what is everybodies favorite 3/4 under quilt.i have been hammock camping since may 2002,i have always been a pad user.i have always thougt quilt look like a pain to set up.but now i think i am ready to switch from pad to under quilt
    the matrix has you

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    my one and only jrb mw3c in converted mode for sure!

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    Quote Originally Posted by kobold View Post
    my one and only jrb mw3c in converted mode for sure!
    I love my torso synthetic Climashield "Yeti" ( no longer made) because of the adjustable warmth. I can add or subtract layers of Climashield as needed. With one layer ( total quilt wt between 9 and 10 oz) I have been OK at about 46-49F wearing just cotton t-shirt and jeans. My son has been toasty with 3 total layers into the mid 20s once and other times in the 30s . About 18 oz total- the layers I add are ~ 3.7 oz each(of CS Combat? not sure), the fixed layer is probably only 2.5 oz of CS XP. I suspect these 3 layers would be adequate for significantly colder temps, but have not tested it. I have also been toasty at about 40 with 2 layers ( less than 14 oz total quilt wt), again sure it would go much lower. Plus I am able to shove a down vest under all layers, and that has to be a stout boost if you have one you are not sleeping in.

    I still can not believe that no one manufactures something like this and that there would not be big demand for it. A 9 or 10 oz SYNTHETIC torso UQ good to about 45-50, then just add more layers for a total of 18-22 oz to go maybe below zero? And Climashild's ability (IMO) to shrug off water/condensation concerns. But bulky. Which is rarely a problem for me, I tend to use larger packs.

    I also am quite impressed with my 900 FP JRB MW 3 convertible. I think it weighs about 13 or 14 oz in short mode, but it is still pretty long for a "torso" style. Much longer than my "Yeti". It goes down below my knees. Rated at 15, lots of loft. So, about the same wt as my synthetic Yeti is with 2 layers, but longer, more compressible and probably a good 10F warmer. For about 23 oz total weight, converts to FULL length. And for a major win, it has occurred to me that the long part will make a great TQ inside the PeaPod, while the short addition will add 3" of loft inside the pod under my back and butt! What a versatile set up!

    But how is this JRB identical to my WB? Neither are available anymore. I think I purchased the very LAST Climashield UQ that WB made before switching to down after he had trouble getting CS. And I jumped on a good sale on the JRB when I saw they were being discontinued. So every thing I just told you is useless info. Other than both brands are of extremely high quality.
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    Romans 8:18,21-22

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    Quote Originally Posted by BillyBob58 View Post
    I love my torso synthetic Climashield "Yeti" ( no longer made) because of the adjustable warmth. I can add or subtract layers of Climashield as needed. With one layer ( total quilt wt between 9 and 10 oz) I have been OK at about 46-49F wearing just cotton t-shirt and jeans. <snip>. About 18 oz total- the layers I add are ~ 3.7 oz each(of CS Combat? not sure), the fixed layer is probably only 2.5 oz of CS XP. I suspect these 3 layers would be adequate for significantly colder temps, but have not tested it. I have also been toasty at about 40 with 2 layers ( less than 14 oz total quilt wt), again sure it would go much lower. Plus I am able to shove a down vest under all layers, and that has to be a stout boost if you have one you are not sleeping in.

    I still can not believe that no one manufactures something like this and that there would not be big demand for it.A 9 o r 10 oz SYNTHETIC torso UQ good to about 45-50, then just add more layers for a total of 18-22 oz to go maybe below zero? And Climashild's ability (IMO) to shrug off water/condensation concerns. .
    The Lost River by AHE is a rectangular and less-tailored version of what you describe. 16oz as built to 3 season / 30F. I'll bet someone could get Paul to make it a convertible with a third layer of skin and a slit pocket: Stuff or remove the pocket with some of that Climashield. Weight penalty of the 3rd layer of fabric would be <3oz.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DemostiX View Post
    The Lost River by AHE is a rectangular and less-tailored version of what you describe. 16oz as built to 3 season / 30F. I'll bet someone could get Paul to make it a convertible with a third layer of skin and a slit pocket: Stuff or remove the pocket with some of that Climashield. Weight penalty of the 3rd layer of fabric would be <3oz.
    Yep, I have thought about Paul making something like this available, thought about asking him if he was interested. Not that I need one, but I bet some other folks would want one. If there are no patent issues with WB? It is a differential cut with one permanent layer sewn to the inner shell. With plenty of room between that layer and the outer shell, which hangs loose below the CS. Then just hand stitch(quilt?) on one or more layers of CS as needed.
    For I consider that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory that is to be revealed to us....that the creation itself also will be set free from its slavery to corruption into the freedom of the glory of the children of God. For we know that the whole creation groans and suffers the pains of childbirth together until now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BillyBob58 View Post
    I love my torso synthetic Climashield "Yeti" ( no longer made) because of the adjustable warmth. I can add or subtract layers of Climashield as needed. With one layer ( total quilt wt between 9 and 10 oz) I have been OK at about 46-49F wearing just cotton t-shirt and jeans. My son has been toasty with 3 total layers into the mid 20s once and other times in the 30s . About 18 oz total- the layers I add are ~ 3.7 oz each(of CS Combat? not sure), the fixed layer is probably only 2.5 oz of CS XP. I suspect these 3 layers would be adequate for significantly colder temps, but have not tested it. I have also been toasty at about 40 with 2 layers ( less than 14 oz total quilt wt), again sure it would go much lower. Plus I am able to shove a down vest under all layers, and that has to be a stout boost if you have one you are not sleeping in.

    I still can not believe that no one manufactures something like this and that there would not be big demand for it. A 9 or 10 oz SYNTHETIC torso UQ good to about 45-50, then just add more layers for a total of 18-22 oz to go maybe below zero? And Climashild's ability (IMO) to shrug off water/condensation concerns. But bulky. Which is rarely a problem for me, I tend to use larger packs.

    I also am quite impressed with my 900 FP JRB MW 3 convertible. I think it weighs about 13 or 14 oz in short mode, but it is still pretty long for a "torso" style. Much longer than my "Yeti". It goes down below my knees. Rated at 15, lots of loft. So, about the same wt as my synthetic Yeti is with 2 layers, but longer, more compressible and probably a good 10F warmer. For about 23 oz total weight, converts to FULL length. And for a major win, it has occurred to me that the long part will make a great TQ inside the PeaPod, while the short addition will add 3" of loft inside the pod under my back and butt! What a versatile set up!

    But how is this JRB identical to my WB? Neither are available anymore. I think I purchased the very LAST Climashield UQ that WB made before switching to down after he had trouble getting CS. And I jumped on a good sale on the JRB when I saw they were being discontinued. So every thing I just told you is useless info. Other than both brands are of extremely high quality.
    BB58,

    Just an update...The JRB convertibles have gone the way of collector items but JRB has recently introduced the Greylock series of torso length UQ...52 x42, dual differential, radial baffles, 14 oz and intro sale priced at $149.95... http://www.jacksrbetter.com/Greylock.htm

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    I love my HG 40* Phoenix. Save for winter, I don't need any other quilt. The construction is top notch.

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    neo is coming over to the dark side

    there are lots of great UQ's out there neo .... Adam is at the top if you ask me
    his quilts are very,very high quality i think you would be happy with one of his
    It puts the Underquilt on it's hammock ... It does this whenever it gets cold

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