They are still being cut, but I added to my site Whoopie hooks which replace the whoopie bead with a hook stong enough to lift 1000 pounds yet only weighs 3.4 grams. They are made from titanium and they are machined to reduce any sharp edges on load bearing surfaces. They work great as a water break and you can seperate your supension and store it seperately if it is wet. I am making them available to order but they won't be done for a couple days. There are many ways to use these such as the traditional way a whoopie sling is used with the locked brummel on the hammock or you can invert them and put the locked brummel on the hugger. Worried you will leave them hanging on the tree, just add a Dutch clip and you will have a terrific all in one suspension.