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    This topic was pretty hot when I joined the site about year and a half ago. If you search for it, I am sure it will turn up. It does seem pretty sad that the state hasn't taken the steps to correct this (as far as I know). But, zero tolerance (in numerous topics) is so easy to push through the rule books, even when common sense should be the judge.

    If you live in the northern part of the state, jump across to Georgia or Alabama. If you live further south, make it a long weekend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by STinGa View Post
    If you live in the northern part of the state, jump across to Georgia or Alabama. If you live further south, make it a long weekend.
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    Over a month ago I started a thread to deal with educating "the powers that be," http://www.hammockforums.net/forum/showthread.php?t=43858, unfortunately most people thought I was just crying wolf....and ought to let the subject drop.

    Now that you have experienced the "sharp end of the enforcement stick", do you think us hangers need to become more proactive?"
    Last edited by WalksInDark; 01-29-2012 at 21:05. Reason: typing error

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    I'll start by saying I'm an avid hammocker...AND I work for the Florida Park Service as a Park Ranger.

    I see both sides of the coin.

    The problem is not with experienced hammockers. The problem is with inexperienced hammockers. Experienced hammockers know to use tree straps and minimize impact. Inexperienced hammockers do ridiculous things like using nails and eye screws in trees and everything else imaginable (I've seen it all).

    Believe it or not, experienced hammockers are a minority. If an experienced hanger were allowed to camp, the folks who don't know how properly would want to hammock camp, too. My understanding is that the Park Service wants to try and avoid problems before they start. Rather than institute a bunch of rules for proper hammocking, they must have decided it's just easier to not have anyone hanging.

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    I'm not claiming to be an official spokesperson representing the State on this issue. I'm just a State employee and a fellow hanger passing along the info I've been offered when I asked about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WalksInDark View Post
    Over a month ago I started a thread to deal with educating "the powers that be," http://www.hammockforums.net/forum/showthread.php?t=43858, unfortunately most people thought I was just crying wolf....and ought to let the subject drop.

    Now that you have experienced the "sharp end of the enforcement stick", do you think us hangers need to become more proactive?"
    If left unchecked, I do think it could happen in other places. If there is noone lobbying for our rights as hammock campers, who knows what kind of laws could be passed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WalksInDark View Post
    Over a month ago I started a thread to deal with educating "the powers that be," http://www.hammockforums.net/forum/showthread.php?t=43858, unfortunately most people thought I was just crying wolf....and ought to let the subject drop.

    Now that you have experienced the "sharp end of the enforcement stick", do you think us hangers need to become more proactive?"
    Probably so. But in the meantime, a thought for the OP:
    As you hung your hammock without asking, and they did not nail you on it until close to dark, how about in the future just putting your tent up 1st, and then after dark hanging your tarp and hammock. And blocking the view of your hammock from the road with the tarp. Will they allow a tarp tied to the trees? (not at some places) If so, put the tent and tarp up, then hang the hammock at night and hit the sack. They are not as likely to come check your site after dark.
    For I consider that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory that is to be revealed to us....that the creation itself also will be set free from its slavery to corruption into the freedom of the glory of the children of God. For we know that the whole creation groans and suffers the pains of childbirth together until now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by molawns View Post
    I'll start by saying I'm an avid hammocker...AND I work for the Florida Park Service as a Park Ranger.

    I see both sides of the coin.

    The problem is not with experienced hammockers. The problem is with inexperienced hammockers. Experienced hammockers know to use tree straps and minimize impact. Inexperienced hammockers do ridiculous things like using nails and eye screws in trees and everything else imaginable (I've seen it all).

    Believe it or not, experienced hammockers are a minority. If an experienced hanger were allowed to camp, the folks who don't know how properly would want to hammock camp, too. My understanding is that the Park Service wants to try and avoid problems before they start. Rather than institute a bunch of rules for proper hammocking, they must have decided it's just easier to not have anyone hanging.

    Disclaimer:
    I'm not claiming to be an official spokesperson representing the State on this issue. I'm just a State employee and a fellow hanger passing along the info I've been offered when I asked about it.
    Thanks, that is good to know, on all issues.
    Last year I was at Hontoon Island for a day hike with the clan and had my hammock set up near the picnic area. I talked with the ranger about the tree straps and he was very interested. He liked the design and purpose and let me leave it up.
    I think it's all of our responsibility to educate each ranger until a permanent change can occur.
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    Quote Originally Posted by molawns View Post
    I'll start by saying I'm an avid hammocker...AND I work for the Florida Park Service as a Park Ranger.

    I see both sides of the coin.

    The problem is not with experienced hammockers. The problem is with inexperienced hammockers. Experienced hammockers know to use tree straps and minimize impact. Inexperienced hammockers do ridiculous things like using nails and eye screws in trees and everything else imaginable (I've seen it all).

    Believe it or not, experienced hammockers are a minority. If an experienced hanger were allowed to camp, the folks who don't know how properly would want to hammock camp, too. My understanding is that the Park Service wants to try and avoid problems before they start. Rather than institute a bunch of rules for proper hammocking, they must have decided it's just easier to not have anyone hanging.

    Disclaimer:
    I'm not claiming to be an official spokesperson representing the State on this issue. I'm just a State employee and a fellow hanger passing along the info I've been offered when I asked about it.
    Thank you for your input. I understand the need for some kind of law, just not one that excludes a group of people. What if they passed a law that noone could camp because a few don't pick up their trash. These kinds of laws don't just punish the troublemakers, but the responsible campers as well. I do not blame the park ranger, as he was only enforcing the rules. I do believe there should be an amendment to the law, to allow the use of tree huggers. The state of Florida is also losing potential revenue from people who will just hang elsewhere. Some of my friends were in RV and some in tents, and all thought it was a rediculous rule. I love my state. My state lawmakers, not so much.
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    yes diplomacy is a good thing, letters too, but in the mean time ~and this post hanging in 8 Florida State parks=when the ranger drives by on his little golf cart he sees my ticket on the post and he sees my REI half dome tent on the tent pad and he drives on. In the bush 10feet or 20 yards behind the tent hangs my hammock. Wrong, yes I guess it could be considered so...so that says a lot about me because I sleep good at night.

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    Another option would be to hang Between two vehicles using their roof racks.
    I've hung between the rack on my explorer and a tree and it worked fine. I was just testing in case I found myself with only one tree to work with. If you are car camping with friends, there might be a chance that you could find something that would work.

    It sure beats sleeping in a tent.
    Last edited by Guitarman; 01-30-2012 at 22:13. Reason: Added some info.

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