As for rocky ground. If the ground is rocky there are stones. Also in snow you don't use it as a stake, that you drive into the ground. I just lay it flat on the ground and cover it with snow. That will hold it plenty good enough if you use a meter or more length of it. I used it in Blizzard conditions and gale force winds last weekend. Held nicely.
Quote Rune. I live at 68*N. I think I know about frozen ground. When it's frozen here it's covered in ice and pegs are useless no matter what they are made from. As for rocky ground. If the ground is rocky there are stones. Also in snow you don't use it as a stake, that you drive into the ground. I just lay it flat on the ground and cover it with snow. That will hold it plenty good enough if you use a meter or more length of it. I used it in Blizzard conditions and gale force winds last weekend. Held nicely.. quote
The ring nails I have mentioned and use work very well in concrete hard frozen ground and hold well in the ice of a lake. I use the same nails in snow but I do not nail to the ground that might be a meter below the snow surface.
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Ionly use Groundhog's as well.
Some more great info, thanks!
Very good read Pan
It puts the Underquilt on it's hammock ... It does this whenever it gets cold
I use 1/4 aluminum round stock bent into a 8" tent spike. Very DIY. Our ground is always soft. Price????????? FREE.
The best for me. HYOH
ALMOST ALL situations have been covered
the solutions, to those, have been enumerated
i found a situation where my bag of stakes didn't have anything that could be driven to the surface of MOTHER EARTH, even w/ the backside of a hefty hatchet
the hatchet just bounced back at my face
there weren't ANY rocks or limbs to tie off to
the breeze was fresh & my stuff didn't want to stay put
KEY WEST, FLORIDA
that piece of earth is SOLID CORAL and laughs at normal tent stakes
when i showed up at the campground office, the lady/manager just laughed at ME
they had a 100# box of 12" GALVANIZED BRIDGE NAILS which they sell for a meezly $1.19/ea
and since i bought a hand full of them, the lady loaned me the campground's 5# hammer to make insertion process easier
i still keep a few in my m/c camping kit
just an old man's experiences...
"we are the people our parents warned us about" jb
Well, snow is mostly the problem. This year we got it before the ground froze. Then we had rain and then a freeze that lasted for a couple of months, before we had a new thaw and rain, and then it froze again. Covering the ground witha 20 cm thick layer of solid ice. Which now have your meter of snow on top of it. Much easier to tie off to trees, saplings and rocks, and where none is at hand, bury a branch in the snow and tie off to that. Many times I've used my skis and skipoles.
In the summer I just make one or two on the spot for that one corner that has nthing within reach.