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    Got a JH today minus the tarp. I have a question for all you Claytor freaks out there.

    I added cinch buckles to it today and it looks alot like the picture below.
    My question is, I did not use a bowline to tie the joined loose ends of the Spyderline at the end of the hammock. I used the method that my Trklight double used . Just took each free end of the Spyderline around the main line and then formed a basic knot. Holds great but it is cinched down as tight as it will go. This made the hammock have a ridge in the middle that I wasn't expecting. It did not feel that great when I layed in it.
    Is there a big difference in how it lays if you give it more slack at the channel such as tieing a bowline as the below picture has done? I would have tried it but will wait till tomorrow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FanaticFringer View Post
    Got a JH today minus the tarp. I have a question for all you Claytor freaks out there.

    I added cinch buckles to it today and it looks alot like the picture below.
    My question is, I did not use a bowline to tie the joined loose ends of the Spyderline at the end of the hammock. I used the method that my Trklight double used . Just took each free end of the Spyderline around the main line and then formed a basic knot. Holds great but it is cinched down as tight as it will go. This made the hammock have a ridge in the middle that I wasn't expecting. It did not feel that great when I layed in it.
    Is there a big difference in how it lays if you give it more slack at the channel such as tieing a bowline as the below picture has done? I would have tried it but will wait till tomorrow.

    Thanks

    FF

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    Quote Originally Posted by FanaticFringer View Post
    Got a JH today minus the tarp. I have a question for all you Claytor freaks out there.

    I added cinch buckles to it today and it looks alot like the picture below.
    My question is, I did not use a bowline to tie the joined loose ends of the Spyderline at the end of the hammock. I used the method that my Trklight double used . Just took each free end of the Spyderline around the main line and then formed a basic knot. Holds great but it is cinched down as tight as it will go. This made the hammock have a ridge in the middle that I wasn't expecting. It did not feel that great when I layed in it.
    Is there a big difference in how it lays if you give it more slack at the channel such as tieing a bowline as the below picture has done? I would have tried it but will wait till tomorrow.

    Thanks

    FF

    I am doing this same mod tomorrow...

    I would think that the "replacement" spyderline should allow the hammock to hang (bunch at the channel) like the original webbing does. In other words, the original webbing is a single, open loop. If the replacement line is tied together at 1. the channel and 2. the buckle/rings would the hammock still hang "naturally"?

    I am going to try different knots to have my replacement line tied together only 1 time at the rings/buckle.

    Make any sense? Yea, me neither!

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    Quote Originally Posted by animalcontrol View Post
    I am doing this same mod tomorrow...

    I would think that the "replacement" spyderline should allow the hammock to hang (bunch at the channel) like the original webbing does. In other words, the original webbing is a single, open loop. If the replacement line is tied together at 1. the channel and 2. the buckle/rings would the hammock still hang "naturally"?

    I am going to try different knots to have my replacement line tied together only 1 time at the rings/buckle.

    Make any sense? Yea, me neither!

    I'm thinking something along the lines in this thread...http://www.hammockforums.net/forum/s...highlight=ring
    I will just use 2 rings and webbing from the rings to the tree...

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    Quote Originally Posted by animalcontrol View Post
    I am doing this same mod tomorrow...

    I would think that the "replacement" spyderline should allow the hammock to hang (bunch at the channel) like the original webbing does. In other words, the original webbing is a single, open loop. If the replacement line is tied together at 1. the channel and 2. the buckle/rings would the hammock still hang "naturally"?

    I am going to try different knots to have my replacement line tied together only 1 time at the rings/buckle.

    Make any sense? Yea, me neither!
    I think I understand you. It is a little hard to get down in words what where talking about here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by animalcontrol View Post
    I'm thinking something along the lines in this thread...http://www.hammockforums.net/forum/s...highlight=ring
    I will just use 2 rings and webbing from the rings to the tree...
    That looks like a really good option. I see that his channel is cinched up as tight as it will go. That is how mine looked. I guess what I am really wanting to know is does a looser channel make for a different laying hammock? Kind of like when you whip a DIY hammock and how it lays is determined by how much material you pull out at the whipping?
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    Quote Originally Posted by FanaticFringer View Post
    That looks like a really good option. I see that his channel is cinched up as tight as it will go. That is how mine looked. I guess what I am really wanting to know is does a looser channel make for a different laying hammock? Kind of like when you whip a DIY hammock and how it lays is determined by how much material you pull out at the whipping?
    I haven't seen any info posted about this in relation to non-DIY hammocks. I'm curious what your findings will be if you experiment with different 'channel spread' widths.
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    One way I was thinking about doing it that I dont know I've read about before is to take a piece of rope/spyderline and run it through the channel. Then wrap the loose ends around the cinch buckle and tie off with a bowline at the cinch buckle. That I think would give the channel more play room.
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    what I don't quite understand is how to maintain the spread if the channels are spread out when not loaded, how do you keep them from bunching together at the loop under load? Not sure I am making sense here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ramblinrev View Post
    what I don't quite understand is how to maintain the spread if the channels are spread out when not loaded, how do you keep them from bunching together at the loop under load? Not sure I am making sense here.
    Your making perfectly good sense. I just thought the same thing myself. Kindoff a "Doh" moment. Yep it would appear that once a load is added it all ends up cinched. Although somewhat less cinched when done the alternative way.
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