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    Quote Originally Posted by neo View Post
    i hate velcro and omni tape periodneo
    I don't particularly like it either. So, how does your bug net attach to your hammock and how well do you like it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Graybeard View Post
    I don't particularly like it either. So, how does your bug net attach to your hammock and how well do you like it?
    mine are zipperedneo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Graybeard View Post
    Excellent thought, with further benefits that you didn't mention. Since the black velcro is currently sewn on with black thread and would be a bear to remove, I was thinking of just cutting it off, which is obviously a one-way modification. If I play this right I can add the zipper with a contrasting thread, try it out, and if I don't like it I can remove it and still have the velcro intact.
    Also, in that scenario wouldn't the velcro function as a backup should the zipper fail?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redtail View Post
    Also, in that scenario wouldn't the velcro function as a backup should the zipper fail?
    Yup!!!!!!! Like guys who wear both a belt and suspenders!
    Last edited by Graybeard; 06-23-2008 at 15:02. Reason: further thought
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    Quote Originally Posted by Graybeard View Post
    Yup!!!!!!! Like guys who wear both a belt and suspenders!
    I'm a Hennessy user so my shirt is sewn to my pants (I get dressed via a velcro slit in the crotch).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redtail View Post
    I'm a Hennessy user so my shirt is sewn to my pants (I get dressed via a velcro slit in the crotch).
    That's got real potential! If you do it right the hook side of the velcro could comb your hair.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Graybeard View Post
    Yup!!!!!!! Like guys who wear both a belt and suspenders!
    Hey, that's my dad you're talking about.

    Quote Originally Posted by Redtail View Post
    I'm a Hennessy user so my shirt is sewn to my pants (I get dressed via a velcro slit in the crotch).
    ROFL.

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    Barring mechanical failures, at least you know the bugnet is closed using a zipper. I'd be leery that I left an opening in the velcro somewhere letting all the little buggers in. I would opt for a double-tab zipper, too.
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    There's a lot to be thought through here, not just zippers vs. velcro but also neo's total aversion to velcro (I, too, hate the way the hook side grabs everything, particularly bugnet) and Hector's use of a Hennesy. Zipper failure is a real concern but thinking back on the zipper failures that I've had, at least half of them have been at the end where the zipper separates. That argues for permanently closed ends, which in turn implies a non-removable bugnet, which in turn eliminates the possible use of a sock. Then I got thinking that just the gas to get me to and back from where I do my canoe camping costs far more than the materials for a hammock (exclusive of the suspension, bugnet, and other accessories.)

    So now I'm thinking, cut the side velcro from both the hammock and the bugnet, sew the bugnet to the hammock on one side, and use the 8-ft zipper on the other side but hand-sew the starting end of the zipper closed to minimize the stresses that cause end-failure of the zipper. That would be the hammock for bug-season use.

    For Fall camping, my favorite season, make a separate insulated hammock, i.e. with a built-in underquilt, saving the cost and weight of the upper half of a conventional underquilt, but without a bugnet. Somewhere I read that insulated hammocks were common before separate underquilts took over. Can anybody point me to online discussions about them?

    Thoughts???
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    Quote Originally Posted by Graybeard View Post
    That argues for permanently closed ends, which in turn implies a non-removable bugnet, which in turn eliminates the possible use of a sock.
    ??? I use a sock with a non-removable bugnet ???? The sock in my gallery was used with the DD hammock as well, but I don't appear to have a pic uploaded of that. I will remedy when I get home, but using a sock with a hammock that has an attached bugnet is definitely doable.

    Quote Originally Posted by Graybeard View Post
    For Fall camping, my favorite season, make a separate insulated hammock, i.e. with a built-in underquilt, saving the cost and weight of the upper half of a conventional underquilt, but without a bugnet. Somewhere I read that insulated hammocks were common before separate underquilts took over. Can anybody point me to online discussions about them?

    Thoughts???
    I can't find the thread or pics (no tags!!!,) but someone made a down hammock and posted pics on it.

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