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    Senior Member ftroop94's Avatar
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    Question Ounces worth the comfort?

    I am not a gram weenie. , But Im starting to see the merits!!!
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    That stated, I've been using a GT UL all winter that I have down to 10.55 oz with whoopies. I'd been eyeing a BB in place of my DJ for summer outings and came across a SL 1.7 (20.5 oz). I liked it so much I picked up a DL 1.1 (24 oz) the next week!

    All those weights are with whoopies and without my Dutch Buckle huggers, so it is consistant.

    Anyway, I'm not a gram weenie, but I'm looking at a 10 - 14 oz swing there. I'm willing to take that for the comfort I've received from the BB. However, if I can get similar comfort out of the Traveler for winter use I'm looking at a difference of 6 - 9 over my current winter setup. I certainly don't need the netting in the winter.

    Question is, how much a difference does that footbox make and is it worth the roughly 4 oz?

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    Senior Member Raul Perez's Avatar
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    I've actuall "downgraded" to the traveler with a bug sock which is 12.5 oz

    Gonna give it a test on a long hike in June
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    I find very little difference in comfort between the Blackbird and the Traveler. The Blackbird is a more 'convenient' hammock, but the Traveler is near its equal in comfort. IMO anyway.
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    I'm with you in terms of no bug needed in the winter. As both Raul and Cannibal have said, I too have moved to a Traveler in the winter (or my DIY!).
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    Anyone have a 1.1 Traveler single with whoopies? I'd like to know the weight of it if you know.

    Thinking about going to a Eno single but I think the crinkle taffetta is 2.1oz sq/y(?) could lose half the hammock weight possibly going to a 1.1 but I'm not sure how the dimensions offset the weight savings.

    Thanks
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    Senior Member Raul Perez's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slo View Post
    Anyone have a 1.1 Traveler single with whoopies? I'd like to know the weight of it if you know.

    Thinking about going to a Eno single but I think the crinkle taffetta is 2.1oz sq/y(?) could lose half the hammock weight possibly going to a 1.1 but I'm not sure how the dimensions offset the weight savings.

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    1.1 single, dynaglide whoopies, 2 6' polyester straps, alum toggles, 1.75mm zingit ridgeline, cuben fiber double end bag from zpacks.... 10.5oz

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    Quote Originally Posted by dragon360 View Post
    I'm with you in terms of no bug needed in the winter.
    Don't completely discount the value of netting in the cold. A simple test will prove it to you. Next time it's good and cold out, set-up a netted hammock for the night. When you wake at some point, unzip the netting and stick your hand outside of the hammock. I'll bet you a quality beer that it's colder outside of the hammock.

    I actually take a hammock with integrated netting when I'm going on very cold trips. That would likely change if I was a pod, or sock user. But, since I'm not, I roll with netting in the real cold.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cannibal View Post
    I actually take a hammock with integrated netting when I'm going on very cold trips. That would likely change if I was a pod, or sock user. But, since I'm not, I roll with netting in the real cold.
    There you have it folks...a statement by Cannibal declaring that there is a piece of Warbonnet gear he won't buy. WB makes a Traveler sock! Cannibal precludes using one.
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    I'll have to give you that on the netting. Not sure exactly how much it gives you, but I hang a digital thermometer on my ridge line and a silnylon tarp usually makes it about 2 F warmer inside the canopy due to body heat at temps around freezing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by angrysparrow View Post
    There you have it folks...a statement by Cannibal declaring that there is a piece of Warbonnet gear he won't buy. WB makes a Traveler sock! Cannibal precludes using one.
    I don't like the travel style netting either.

    I will admit, after camping with Just Jeff a few times now, I am starting to see the value in socks. Still not going to get one; it's a "principal" thing.
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