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    Size Snakeskins for Tarp

    I want use Hennessy snake skins with my JRB 11 x 10 tarp, but I'm not sure what size to get. Example, what's difference between snake skins #2 & #3? Is there that much of a difference?

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    Not much of a difference. Either would work well. The #3 fit just fine for my JRB 11x10 tarp.
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    I used my old #3's. The worked but the tiny hole on the small side was a pain when I wanted to switch the location of the ridge line to switch from A frame to a Baker Hut.

    A friend of mine at work made me a real nice set of custom ones that are longer than HH's and have larger holes at the small end.

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    I found that using snake skins for my Mac Cat was hard to do due to the big ball of fabric that always seemed to gather in the middle between the two skins as they were pulled on, SO... I made a single skin fourteen feet ling that pulls on all from one (either) side. This way, the air in the tarp can be pushed out the end, not trapped in the middle between two skins. Works really slick. Mule
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    Just made a pair of skins for my DIY Hallelujah tarp. Hallelujah because it was a celebration when I finished! 10x12 with 10 cat cuts!

    I made the skins out of some $1 "tulle" fabric I bought thinking it would make a bug net. Digression... never, ever try to make anything out of tulle. The stuff is wicked to work with, and its too stiff in all the wrong places... back on topic. I used tulle because it is lightweight and "airy", and... I want to get rid of my supply.

    Each skin was 6' long. 12" wide at the big end, ~4" at the little end. Run a seam on the long side and the short end. Make a draw cord channel on the wide end. I used a electrician's soldering iron to burn a hole in the short end for the cord to the tree. Afterwards I found that the hole isn't good enough. It was stretching/tearing and the tarp, not the line was sticking out. I now have a very short piece of string tied tight around the fabric at the ridgeline tie outs.

    As skinner said, there will be a bulge in the middle, but the convenience outweighs this minor irritant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tight-wad View Post
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    I made the skins out of some $1 "tulle" fabric I bought thinking it would make a bug net. Digression... never, ever try to make anything out of tulle. The stuff is wicked to work with, and its too stiff in all the wrong places... back on topic. I used tulle because it is lightweight and "airy", and... I want to get rid of my supply.
    and having sunk $10 into 10 yards of the stuff at Walmart a while back, I was thinking this very evening of making up some snakeskins for my tarp using that stuff. And now I see your post!

    I do know it is very stretchy....my thought was to cut it (burn it, actually with a hot knife, maybe reduce the pulling on the fabric that way), and edge it with bias tape. That way whatever sewing I do the bias tape will be what the feeder feet grab and maybe I'll escape multi-dimensional warping of the material. Whaddya think oh blazer of the tulle sewing trail?

    seriously,
    Grizz

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    Grizz, I did same thing. Got tulle at WalMart a while ago thinking I'd make snakeskins but after making a simple ridgeline pocket holder with it, I thought "Maybe Not!" Stuff is pain to sew. Perkolady told me she uses a zig-zag stitch to help control it, but even she admits it's a pain to sew.

    I used bias tape on ridgeline pocket. I think it makes it more durable where sewn.

    Maybe I'll wait for Grizz's detailed sewing instructions and photos on how to make "tulle snakeskins for your tarp" before I try it!

    Considering it's Grizz he probably whipped them up last night and is getting ready to post instructions at any moment

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    Quote Originally Posted by HappyCamper View Post
    Grizz, I did same thing. Got tulle at WalMart a while ago thinking I'd make snakeskins but after making a simple ridgeline pocket holder with it, I thought "Maybe Not!" Stuff is pain to sew. Perkolady told me she uses a zig-zag stitch to help control it, but even she admits it's a pain to sew.

    I used bias tape on ridgeline pocket. I think it makes it more durable where sewn.

    Maybe I'll wait for Grizz's detailed sewing instructions and photos on how to make "tulle snakeskins for your tarp" before I try it!

    Considering it's Grizz he probably whipped them up last night and is getting ready to post instructions at any moment
    I was tempted to have a go at them last night, but instead I undid a bunch of Alpine Butterfly knots from some Vectran 12 I'd put them in. Just about any knot clamps down in that stuff. Good thing the Alpine Butterfly is supposed to be easy to undo, at least in sheathed cording. Quiet evening in the Grizz home...

    So clearly I need to try running a stitch with this stuff before committing to a project with it! Thanks for the added warning.

    Grizz

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    Quote Originally Posted by HappyCamper View Post
    Grizz, I did same thing. Got tulle at WalMart a while ago thinking I'd make snakeskins but after making a simple ridgeline pocket holder with it, I thought "Maybe Not!" Stuff is pain to sew. Perkolady told me she uses a zig-zag stitch to help control it, but even she admits it's a pain to sew.

    I used bias tape on ridgeline pocket. I think it makes it more durable where sewn.

    Maybe I'll wait for Grizz's detailed sewing instructions and photos on how to make "tulle snakeskins for your tarp" before I try it!
    Hi HC--cooked up the skins tonight. The tulle wasn't too bad, I cut a long rectangle, brought the long edges together, and sewed them together inside some bias tape. The tulle was never near the feeder dogs nor the presser foot.

    Some dimensions given in this post.

    Grizz

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    Quote Originally Posted by GrizzlyAdams View Post
    Whaddya think oh blazer of the tulle sewing trail?
    I see by all the following posts that somebody was very busy in the few hours I was away from the board

    The first problem: How to measure the darned stuff. I've been using simple (cheap) masking tape. Lay the fabric flat, or as flat as it will go on its own. Lay a long line of tape on the fabric and try not to stretch it in any dimension. Carefully lay another line of tape at right angles to the first and try not to put any tension anywhere. Continue taping to create the shape/size you want. Use a straight edge and pen to mark the tape for cutting.

    2nd problem: sewing. After much trial and error, I've settled on leaving the masking tape on the fabric and sewing it in. Yeah - it looks like who'd a thought it, but dog gone it, everything else is worse! Make two passes in the sewing machine. 1st pass, very slowly rip a straight stitch trying to keep the top and bottom fabrics together, ie. don't let the bottom get ahead of the top. 2nd pass, zigzag.

    For improved looks, invest a lot of time: Carefully measure and cut so that only 1/8" or so of tape is left on the fabric. Sew the two pieces with a 1/4" hem. Cut off the 1/8" tape. This leaves a very thin hem. Don't know about the durability of that, but with the zigzag it should hold.

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