Any comments on JRB Nest for HH... please

[elcolombianito]

So my vacations are nearly over and have not been able to make up my mind on which road to take: supershelter or jrb nest. At first i was drawn towards the SS. But after a while of reading threads, and some dyi uq experiments with and old sleeping bag, im strongly considering the nest.

I assume the nest gives more heat coverage? than the ss. I like to move alot inside the hh and sleep in irregular positions, and I believe the nest would be more appropiate in this sense.

the compacted size of the nest is very appealing, also since it has other uses(quilt, vest), but i was wondering if compressing it everytime its packed(as well as by mistake sometimes compressing it too tight) doesnt affect its effectivenes after some time. By the way, would it fit in snakeskins?

Im also not clear on how the foot end velcro slit of the nest works (or the ss's entry slit for that matter). At JRB site, it says it "attaches to the Hennessy’s entrance hook and loop"... which h and l? In some thread here i read it velcroed(not the actual word used on the post, but can't find the thread) to the hh's entry slit velcro. I hope someone can post some images on how this part of the system works. Most places i hang have many little bugs that refuge under the tarp and on the hammock and in it if i let any openings on the slit, so how would this be affected?

Other than these questions, my only other concerns are price (comp to ss with overcover and space blanket) and color. Haven't seen or read anyone who uses it with the black side out though someone has recommended it.

[Ramblinrev]

Omni tape adheres to both sides of traditional velcro as well as to itself. Many products are using omni tape now.

[FanaticFringer]

So my vacations are nearly over and have not been able to make up my mind on which road to take: supershelter or jrb nest. At first i was drawn towards the SS. But after a while of reading threads, and some dyi uq experiments with and old sleeping bag, im strongly considering the nest.

I assume the nest gives more heat coverage? than the ss. I like to move alot inside the hh and sleep in irregular positions, and I believe the nest would be more appropiate in this sense.

the compacted size of the nest is very appealing, also since it has other uses(quilt, vest), but i was wondering if compressing it everytime its packed(as well as by mistake sometimes compressing it too tight) doesnt affect its effectivenes after some time. By the way, would it fit in snakeskins?

Im also not clear on how the foot end velcro slit of the nest works (or the ss's entry slit for that matter). At JRB site, it says it "attaches to the Hennessy’s entrance hook and loop"... which h and l? In some thread here i read it velcroed(not the actual word used on the post, but can't find the thread) to the hh's entry slit velcro. I hope someone can post some images on how this part of the system works. Most places i hang have many little bugs that refuge under the tarp and on the hammock and in it if i let any openings on the slit, so how would this be affected?

Other than these questions, my only other concerns are price (comp to ss with overcover and space blanket) and color. Haven't seen or read anyone who uses it with the black side out though someone has recommended it.

I vote for the Nest. BillyBob58 has used the SS with success. Do a search as he has posted plenty of info. on it. I'm sure he'll chime in soon.
I would not worry about compressing the Nest. Never had a problem doing it. That being said, I have tried to compress the Nest and hammock together in the snakeskins and did not like compressing it that much. Most dont do it that way although a few do. Others have tried things such as a BlackBishop bag with success.

I suggest trying to enclose the Nest onto the hammock as well as just pushing the underquilt to the side when entering/exiting the hammock. Experiment with both. Back when I used a Hennessy, I pushed it aside and it worked great. I did'nt want to fool with attaching it to the hammock.

It works fine black side out.

http://www.jacksrbetter.com/index_fi...g%20Tricks.htm

[Take-a-knee]

I vote for the Nest. BillyBob58 has used the SS with success. Do a search as he has posted plenty of info. on it. I'm sure he'll chime in soon.
I would not worry about compressing the Nest. Never had a problem doing it. That being said, I have tried to compress the Nest and hammock together in the snakeskins and did not like compressing it that much. Most dont do it that way although a few do. Others have tried things such as a BlackBishop bag with success.

I suggest trying to enclose the Nest onto the hammock as well as just pushing the underquilt to the side when entering/exiting the hammock. Experiment with both. Back when I used a Hennessy, I pushed it aside and it worked great. I did'nt want to fool with attaching it to the hammock.

It works fine black side out.

http://www.jacksrbetter.com/index_fi...g%20Tricks.htm

I've had better luck attaching the Nest to the hammock slit and leaving it there. Rig up a "Blackbishop Sack" like this:http://www.tothewoods.net/HomemadeGe...ishopSack.html That way, once you get it adjusted, it stays that way.

The Nest is the only underquilt I didn't get a cold spot under my butt occasionally( I also have a KAQ), and with the Nest, if you do, you can fiddle with the velcro from inside the hammock and usually fix it without having to leave your warm coccoon. The Jacks have a winner with the NEST/NO SNIVELER. I highly reccomend them.

If you turn the black side out, the Omnitape will be inverted, I've thought about sewing another layer of omnitape on the other side.

[cgul1]

I vote nest, but then have not used the SS

Just spent a week in HH with nest, worked great

[DougTheElder]

This is a good chance for you to do it right the first time. I have both (SS and No Sniveller). Bought the SS first. Its good for some things, but not as good for as many situations as the JRB stuff.

[Perkolady]

I have no experience with the ss, but I highly recommend the Nest !!

Wonderful underquilt !

Perkolady

[BillyBob58]

I have never used a Nest, but I am sure I would like it, because I LOVE my PeaPod. But of course, I can't use that with a netted hammock like HH.

I have slept many warm nights in my SS ( undercover, pad(s) and Space Blanket( virtually required IMO). I probably won't use it this year and I will sort of miss it. I grew sort of fond of it. But I will probably go with some other options this year. PROBABLY.

If you do a search like FF said ( also search WB ), you will find a ton of stuff on it, and a few folks who really like it. There are reasons to choose a down UQ, but they will cost more ( I think ) and the SS might have a severe wet weather advantage. Or, it might not.

I can only speak for myself, but I think I would be happy with either.

[kwpapke]

There are reasons to choose a down UQ, but they will cost more ( I think ) and the SS might have a severe wet weather advantage. Or, it might not.

I can only speak for myself, but I think I would be happy with either.

BillyBob summarizes my conclusions so far as well.

> By the way, would it fit in snakeskins?

Neither will fit totally in snakeskins. The SS undercover will fit into skins, but the OCF pad has to be carried separately. I roll my OCF pad up into a Sea-to-summit dry bag and carry on the sleeping pad straps of my pack.

> Im also not clear on how the foot end velcro slit of the nest works (or the ss's entry slit for that matter)

The SS undercover has a slit that matches the hammock, and the underpad is just pushed to one side on entry/exit. It is kept off to the side by the elastics to match your sleeping position, so it naturally easily pushes off to that side.

I've been spending 3-4 nights/week in my HH + SS for the last 3 weeks out in Oregon (along the PCT, etc.), with temps down to the mid-30's. I have been a "happy camper".

Good luck with your choice.

--Kurt

[BillyBob58]

BillyBob summarizes my conclusions so far as well.

> By the way, would it fit in snakeskins?

Neither will fit totally in snakeskins. The SS undercover will fit into skins, but the OCF pad has to be carried separately. I roll my OCF pad up into a Sea-to-summit dry bag and carry on the sleeping pad straps of my pack.

> Im also not clear on how the foot end velcro slit of the nest works (or the ss's entry slit for that matter)

The SS undercover has a slit that matches the hammock, and the underpad is just pushed to one side on entry/exit. It is kept off to the side by the elastics to match your sleeping position, so it naturally easily pushes off to that side.

I've been spending 3-4 nights/week in my HH + SS for the last 3 weeks out in Oregon (along the PCT, etc.), with temps down to the mid-30's. I have been a "happy camper".

Good luck with your choice.

--Kurt

Wow, that is a lot of serious hammocking, and in a great place! (envy!) I have to ( for the most part) wait until I go somewhere else this time of year, because I mostly can't stand the heat. I like to sleep when it is cool, and summertime here is rarely cool. But at least when I do try it, I get that nice little boost of "hammock induced bottom cooling" going. Which I need if the lows are much above 70. Below 70, I use the pad, 70-75 is either way, above 75 I enjoy the extra cooling.

PS-you say lows to mid 30s? That is still pretty cool, even up high, for July in the PNW. Do you use just the standard pad, or do you add anything extra down below? Do you use the space blanket?