Ready-made, Speer-compatible suspension + ridgeline?

[gaidal]

I'm using some DIY web straps with my Speer IIIA, and while I'm quite proud of having made the aluminium buckles myself and all, they're not very convenient.

Is there any ready-made solution I can buy that would make the setup process smoother, like whoopie slings and all that, that's sure to work with a Speer? Also, can I get a ridgeline from some other vendor and simply attach to my Speer with my click?

As you can perhaps hear I don't know much about what's available for suspension, and want to stay out of DIY as much as possible...

(Hm, perhaps just making a loop on my straps and use the buckle to connect the hammock instead would make them much more user-friendly...!)

[oldgringo]

I have whoopies on my Speer...it's been a long time ago, but I seem to remember just cutting the stock webbing off at the whipping.

If you want a ridge line to hold up the Speer bug net, You're going to have to diy, or maybe talk Stu @ whoopieslings.com into working something up. The ridge line has to attach a foot or so up the suspension from the whipping bundle, so you need Prusik loops on the whoopies to attach the rl to.

[gaidal]

Why do you need to cut the stock webbing before you can use whoopies? I have too little idea how these things work.

This is what I use now (trying to attach picture). I copied somebody else's design long ago, then forgot how I was planning to use it.
I think I'll have to add those loops and go try to find out why I would want to change to something else, although I haven't tried whoopies or any other way yet.

The RL seems like something I'll save for later, if it needs DIY and all.

[krshome]

Why do you need to cut the stock webbing before you can use whoopies? I have too little idea how these things work.

This is what I use now (trying to attach picture). I copied somebody else's design long ago, then forgot how I was planning to use it.
I think I'll have to add those loops and go try to find out why I would want to change to something else, although I haven't tried whoopies or any other way yet.

The RL seems like something I'll save for later, if it needs DIY and all.

Little late but here you go

[gaidal]

Aha. So I should have a loop only on one side of the webbing, and replace the hammock webbing with string, in order to use that.

I found the design for that buckle on a Swedish hammock site, and your filenames are in Swedish too, coincidence?

[stevebo]

Really simple----------cut the webbing off the speer---------then larkspur the whoopie over the speer knot---------works great, super easy to adjust, and light weight!

[gaidal]

If I hang the hammock directly in the whoopies, then how do I adjust the length?

[oldgringo]

That's an Elephant Trunk

http://www.hammockforums.net/forum/s...elephant+trunk

I'm unclear how you're using it...perhaps if you contact bloomgorge, he can advise you.

[BillyBob58]

Don't know of anything ready made where you wouldn't have to remove the webbing from the hammock, unless you wanted to carry around two suspensions.

There are set ups available from several different places like this:
http://www.jacksrbetter.com/HammockSuspensionSystem.htm
http://www.jacksrbetter.com/Strap%20Set.htm

Once I played around with a cinch buckle on my Speer webbing. This would require you to attach some rope from the cinch buckle to either a biner or directly through a loop in a tree strap ( would still need a biner or Dutch Hook though), so there would be that much "DIY", which isn't much. Obviously I used way more rope here than I needed, along with a heavy biner, but you get the idea. I would use a much smaller piece of Spider line rope or even some Amsteel and a UL biner if I decided to use this permanently. But it worked just fine. Point is, this approach allowed me to use a cinch buckle with my stock Speer webbing- without having to remove the webbing.

[gaidal]

So many possibilities.

What are the reasons that we don't want to just tie the Speer's webbing to the biner directly? It might be terribly hard to untie in the morning, but that could be avoided. Is it much harder to adjust? Or would it harm the webbing to make knots with it?