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    Amsteel

    Amsteel is physically larger so it would be easier to work with now. As your experience and skill grow, either will be fine.

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    I agree with what Mad777 with regards to weight limits. If you are under say 200 pounds and weight is critical, Dynaglide may be for you. I personally find that Amsteel is easier to work with when splicing.

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    I use both, and find them equally easy to splice. In addition to the lighter weight of Dynaglide, I like the fact that it packs down to a smaller volume.

    I also don't hang over rocks.

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    Smaller, larger----but how much?
    The specific gravity of this stuff is .97, about the same as water. I will grant that untill it has been repeatedly tensioned the core of Amsteel Blue is a bit hollow an and the braid traps some air. But after that:
    "A pint's a pound the world around." There are 16 ounces to a pint.
    So, pack an extra ounce of Amsteel Blue when you might have used Dynaglide instead and you are packing an extra ounce of volume, too.

    That would be, after we say to the monopoly search engine with benefits (or to Siri, I suppose). "Convert 1 ounce to cu in" 1.8 cu inches. or "to millileters 30ml. What is the volume of your pack?

    Truly, YMMV here, and WV would, I think, be a climber, not a sprinter if he were a (bicycle) rider, gravity less a nemesis than for others and the heavier line offering him a smaller safety benefit than it offers others.
    Last edited by DemostiX; 04-25-2012 at 00:22. Reason: conditional tense

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    D-stix,
    If your wheels were as eliptical as your prose, you'd be in for a bumpy ride. I think I understood what you wrote, but I think I'll think about it some more.

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    What some need to do is leave it alone, and loose the attitude! Beating a dead horse cause you can doesn't prove anything!

    FWIW I use Dynaglide, I weigh 186#'s, been using dynaglide for quite some time now! I just retired a set of whoopies about 6/8 months ago as when I inspected them about 1/3 of the strands were frayed in several spots!
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    Interesting reading:

    http://www.neropes.com/product.aspx?...D&lid=3&pid=94

    http://www.samsonrope.com/index.cfm?rope=192

    http://www.dyneema.com/en_US/public/...terial-content

    Those 3 pages explain the materials. UHMwPE is the same as HMPE. With the recommended 15:1 safety factor 1000 lbs is reduced to ~66 lbs.

    Up to a point, the bigger the line the easier to splice. If I was just learning I think I would go buy a handy piece of 1/4 or 3/8 tubular braid polyethylene utility line and try a few splices in something big enough to see easily. Once you know what you are trying to do then do it in the small stuff. Something like this:

    http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1...&storeId=10051

    Don't think I would hang from it. ;-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iaspanky View Post
    I guess my really question is which one if either is easy to work with
    Amsteel is, but after minimal practice you can splice any of them with ease. I am no pro and I can do it, so it is safe to say that a half trained chimp could too.

    Keith

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iaspanky View Post
    I guess my really question is which one if either is easy to work with

    Not sure if I can answer your question but I can say that a long time ago WV gave me a loop turner (http://www.walmart.com/ip/Loop-Turne...i_sku=19757943) as I was having some issues with splicing, and what a difference it made for me! Others find the use of wire, fid's (of different sizes) or some other thing make splicing much easier! YMMV of course
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    Good, clear info, Nothermark. Thanks. Learning to splice with larger diameter polypro rope is a good idea.

    I suppose the 15:1 safety recommendation for "critical applications" makes sense, but then even 7/64" Amsteel wouldn't do for hangers who weigh more than 107 lbs. HYOH, but carefully.

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