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    Senior Member Timberrr's Avatar
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    Okay, we're in.
    Gumbo wants some happyoldturtlefundogladyguy stands because CLEARLY we don't have enough gear.
    Actually, we were both really impressed with Old4Hats' (& Miss Carol's) total set up at FH3. Remarkably simple, totally complete and a very elegant solution. We're going for the total 4Hats package.
    So off we go to Lowes. But no 2x2s. And the 2x3s were horrible quality. So off we go to Ace. They carry very little lumber but they had 2x2s. We probably paid a little (or a lot) extra for them but we got them and now we're almost ready to start.
    A couple of questions:
    Toprail comes in 10 1/2' foot pieces. We know we want something longer. Is there any reason not to use a coupling sleeve to extend the toprail?
    I really like the elegance of the simple solutions. I understand the concern about hanging from cast aluminum endcaps, but if your dogbone or continuous loop took a couple wraps around the top rail before it got to the endcap, wouldn't that put most of the stress on the toprail?
    Similarly, this
    Quote Originally Posted by obmit View Post
    is a very elegant solution. But that's a lot of dynamic load on a small piece of cast aluminum that was never meant to withstand it. I would really like to see a safety line of some sort to catch the toprail in case that casting fails. You won't get any warning signs of a pending failure. If not a safety loop then a video camera.
    Some of this may have been covered before but I couldn't bring myself to read 1000+ posts. Sorry.
    Stay tuned for two more stands (& probably more questions).
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    Privateer, you mentioned the stand getting accidentally bumped by kids, I accidentally bumped my own, and it had cords from leg to leg to position it. Problem arose when I attempted to use the hammock and DID NOT look at the tripods to check that all was well. The tripod on that end tipped in and the top rail came down under a bit of pressure, knocking off my glasses and hitting me a glancing blow across my forehead. No great harm was done, the stand was not damaged, BUT I just cannot use one of these stands now without first checking out the stands. Perhaps my accident was in my favor at that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brute1100 View Post
    I just want to have the 1000th post
    Nice one Brute1100 !
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    while cares will drop away from you like the leaves of Autumn." — John Muir


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    Timber, the top rails that we are using are swaggered at the end, so if you buy two, they fit together, then cut to length.
    I do not hang off the cast end caps. I have a continiuos loop of amsteel larkshead on the toprail to a steel shackle to the hinge. I now have an amsteel dogbone from the hammock to the toprail, just outside of the continiuos loop. I do have the endcaps, but use them just for the tarp......RR
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    old4hats - Doing a pre-hang walk around is a pretty good SOP idea.

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    Here is a pic of my toprail end. The black is the continiuos loop, the thicker yellow is the whoopie, which I have since switched to the dogbones, and the thinner yellow is the zing-it for the tarp.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roadrunnr72 View Post
    Timber, the top rails that we are using are swaggered at the end, so if you buy two, they fit together, then cut to length.
    I do not hang off the cast end caps. I have a continiuos loop of amsteel larkshead on the toprail to a steel shackle to the hinge. I now have an amsteel dogbone from the hammock to the toprail, just outside of the continiuos loop. I do have the endcaps, but use them just for the tarp......RR
    Okay, I follow the hammock hanging part. But what do the endcaps do for the tarp?

    I see now. But couldn't you just have the zing-it go under the toprail and not use the caps at all?

    BTW, How long is your toprail?
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    I really don't need them, but it does give the end a cleaner look, IMO.....RR
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    Quote Originally Posted by Privateer View Post
    Would not need this normally, this stand is sturdy enough without the zip-ties. But I'm going camping with friends who have small children, and knowing what children can do, get into, bump into (from experience!) while camping, needed a way to really secure things. Plus wanted a way to secure the stand if we anticipate high winds and want to leave the camp for a while.

    This is an earlier post of mine, dealing with anchors and the wind...RR


    Quote Originally Posted by Roadrunnr72 View Post
    This is the same stand, just some new pics.
    This one is packed up
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    This is the strap for carrying the stand
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    This is the stainless steel shackle for holding the the toprail to the hinge. The amsteel on the right is the continiuos loop to the toprail, the amsteel on the left is were I ran the anchors
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    The yellow strap is running next to the amsteel, it is not part of the set up, just there for a visual as the amsteel is so small it just wasn't showing up in the pics. The stakes that I used are rebar T stakes that I made for a different stand. I also have a set of galvanized spikes, but the ground is so wet that I could pull them out very easy, so I went with the T stakes. I can't remember how long they are, but I think they are either 18" or 24" long. The ground is so soft, I could push them all the way in by hand, no hammer needed.
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    To install, I ran the amsteel through the steel shackle, then put the stake through the loop on the end of it, and pushed it in, pulled the amsteel tight marked the spot on the ground, and placed the stake through the loop and pushed it in until tight. How well does it hold?

    Well here is the money shot!!!


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    With the wind blowing, can you say HAMMOCK SAIL. The stand NEVER moved!! It held tight. I left it up for about 30 min, before putting up my tarp, again, no movement. Anytime I camp, and am using this stand, I will be using my anchors. Most time it would be the shorter spikes, but with soft ground, I'll be glad to use the longer ones. I do have a few more pics I can post, if your having problems understanding how I have the guylines run......RR
    Quote Originally Posted by Roadrunnr72 View Post
    Another pic, when I posted above, I thought I had this one downloaded. It's a better pic of how the guyline is attached to the stand, again, the yellow strap is just for a visual, and not part of the set up.....RR

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    Originally Posted by olddog
    The question was posed by old4hats about the number of turtledog stands that had been built. Went back and reviewed a few threads, the Turtlelady stand, the TurtleDog stand and a thread by domromer. Here is what I was able to find and assume that there may be others.

    Page #1. Ends at post #723
    Page #2
    #101 - turtleburger
    #102 - JakobW
    #103 - berksound
    #104 - HangDenAround
    #105 - civetta62
    #106 - LEAGLE
    #107 - joeybravo13
    #108 - JohnSawyer
    #109 - JaxHiker
    #110 - delphyves, the first from France!
    #111 & 112 - Rightside
    #113 - tato
    #114 - Randy
    #115 - Mag
    #116 - Aardvark
    #117 - Brute1100
    #118 - ptsal
    #119 - Bankheadboy
    #120 - old4hats' second
    #121 - UncleClark
    #122 & 123 - hppyfngy, the Master TD maker!
    #124 - Humpback
    #125 - jima59
    #126 - 100MileBill
    #127 - WV
    #128 - rcracin24
    #129 - NWOHanger
    #130 - doogie
    #131 - WhiteHillReptile
    #132 - catalyst
    #133 - Lupus
    #134 - bowl-maker
    #135 - ewhammock
    #136 - Privateer
    #137 - Settle
    #138 - obmit

    Miss two days and 4 new TD's and 2 in the works! obmit, what is the attachment bracket used between the toprail and hinge on your rig?
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