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    Quote Originally Posted by ewhammock View Post
    As a follow-up to my previous post....

    Had a wonderful night's sleep. However, some observations/comments about my TDS. First - I made a bonehead move when cutting my top rail pipe. I finally found and purchased two, 10' toprails with swaged ends for connecting. I made mine 14', but cut from the same end on both - leaving me with two swaged end pieces rather than just one - DOH!! Had bought the end caps - so won't be using those, as a result.

    Second - I am suspect of the lightweight T-hinges I used. Definitely prone to bending, and makes the stand rather rickety feeling. Will be swapping out for heavier ones. I also could barely fish an S-hook through the open hole - and had to use a small one because of the hole size. So, the next morning I fashioned up a continuous loop out of 7/64 Amsteel and girth hitched it to the hinge, and connected a galvy 'beiner to that:



    Also - left my legs at full length - will be reducing by 6-12".

    Will get it all sorted out - sure easy to set up!!!! Thanks again everyone who contributed to the TurtleDog Evolution Revolution!!
    Those hinges you are suspicious of are doing yoman service for a lot of us, I don't really think you will have any problem, also the hole can be drilled out so a metal link will go through it, probably safer than putting line through the hole. From the pics you have done a fine job, and I'm also envious of your location.

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    Quote Originally Posted by samsara View Post
    I called it the TurtleDog 2.0 and the post is here. I have changed something since making that version (call it 2.1). I don't use the hook to hold the pipe down and would probably replace that system with a couple of small eyebolts on the two side legs near the top and then just run some amsteel (or cheaper rope) from one side to the other over the pipe to hold it down. In practice though, I don't really need anything to hold the pipe on top other than the cradle that I made on top... but safer is better.



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    I hope the thin hinge doesn't cut the amsteel.
    I was thinking the same thing......RR
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    Quote Originally Posted by ewhammock View Post

    Something about this does look a little wrong. Is that a 4" hinge?

    It seems attached much closer to where the angle is cut than on other ones.

    See the difference?



    Or look at Settle's above. ^^

    It's probably fine but you may have a smaller / less substantial one than others are using. Dunno
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    I just realized, this turtle dog stand thing might just catch on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by old4hats View Post
    I just realized, this turtle dog stand thing might just catch on.
    After checking out yours and Carol's setup during FH3, Timberrr and I have been discussing making a couple of them for ourselves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hppyfngy View Post
    Something about this does look a little wrong. Is that a 4" hinge?

    It seems attached much closer to where the angle is cut than on other ones.

    See the difference?



    Or look at Settle's above. ^^

    It's probably fine but you may have a smaller / less substantial one than others are using. Dunno
    Yep - definitely 4" hinges - bought from Ace Hardware. When I mounted, I matched up the two cut faces and brought the hinge down to the point where the mounting holes were centered on the on the legs - any further down would have brought the mounting holes closer to the inner edges of the two legs. Used 1/4" x 2" hex bolts for the mounting. So don't know what has happened, because the center hole is only just below where the faces meet, as seen in my pic. Definitely not as accessible as those other pics (hence the Amsteel), and they just don't feel solid to me. I am going to search for another set.

    And given I am going to shorten the legs - I can redo some new faces if my new hinges have different mounting positions.

    I can also cut off one of the swaged ends of my top rail, because I don't need 14'.

    And probably right regarding the notion of the Amsteel eventually cutting/wearing - although I think that would take quite a while given there is very little movement of the top rail. I have a set of heavier hooks with closed loops on one side that I can then slip the carabiner into.

    I will get it figured out one way or another! Thank you guys for the comments/suggestions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by old4hats View Post
    Those hinges you are suspicious of are doing yoman service for a lot of us, I don't really think you will have any problem, also the hole can be drilled out so a metal link will go through it, probably safer than putting line through the hole. From the pics you have done a fine job, and I'm also envious of your location.
    I have had some problems with hinge bending but only when I am moving the stand around and transporting it. If it is set up properly then the hinges do fine.. I will also mention that the top rail actually moves a lot (every time you move it does too) but it is small movements. But ask anyone with a boat about ropes chafing, it is a constant problem. I would find a shackle that fits or drill a bigger hole.

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    I had to drill the hole in hinge slightly larger to get the hook through. Only took about 5 seconds per side. I wouldn't trust any type of rope going through that. I doubt it would last through one night hanging.

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