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    Info needed: OMW vs. Big Daddy

    Hey everybody,
    I am just starting my hammock adventure...I am in the process of getting my first hammock setup put together.
    I have heard great reviews of WL, so naturally here I am.
    I am looking for my first tarp. I simply can't decide between the Old Man Winter and the Big Daddy. I like the design of the OMW but I am worried it is too much tarp for a beginner.
    I live in the Seattle area, so yes it does rain. Would the Big Daddy provide enough coverage or should I pony up for the OMW for maximum protection?
    Any help would be appreciated.

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    hey readyme and welcome to HF!
    here are my thoughts (to be taken with a grain of salt).
    i own an OMW and Tadpole (so i can't speak for the BD).
    my first tarp had doors (WB SF) because i wanted the coverage if weather should happen.
    as a beginner i wanted a "do it all tarp" since i had little experience pitching a tarp for a hammock.
    as i gained "hang time" i began to leave the doors attached to the pull outs when i was not expecting precipitation.
    then i discovered Wilderness Logics and so i picked up a Tadpole for warmer hangs.
    i really liked the quality and service so when WL introduced the OMW i sold my SF and grabbed an OMW.
    the center side tie out makes a lot of difference to me, in that, it helps with keeping a taunt tarp and gives extra anchorage in high winds and/or snow.
    here, in NC, i use the Tadpole all summer and the OMW from fall to spring.
    (imho) having "too much tarp" is better than not enough when there is a learning curve.
    the Big Daddy is a little larger than my Tadpole and i believe it would provide ample all around coverage, and both are great tarps.
    my 2 cents,
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    I like the fact,,I can take the OMW, and pitch it with the doors closed if I have to. I can open the doors and fold them back either on the outside or inside. I can hang the tarp with doors folded back in porch mode on one side or both, I can do porch mode with one side of doors closed. I can leave one end open, and other end with doors closed, I can pitch tarp with the sides down completely to the ground all the way around. Lots of options for a great tarp and that is why they call it a 4 season tarp.

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    Thanks for your input guys.
    I should add that I am going to be a 3 season guy.
    At this point, I am still going to use my sleeping bag. I figure I would trying 'hanging' for a while before I dive in head first and end up with an under quilt and over quilt...I was quite surprised how expensive those are!!


    Flatline, I am worried I am trying to get a "do it all tarp" that will do more than I ask...that is why I am leaning towards the Big Daddy. You mentioned you really like the center tie outs on the OMW, and I was thinking those would be really nice to keep things tight. I wonder if I could convince WL to add center tie outs to the Big Daddy.

    Thanks all, please keep the info rolling.

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    If you want more coverage, but aren't sure you want doors, you could get the Big Daddy with either a 132 inch or 144 inch ridgeline.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cataraftgirl View Post
    If you want more coverage, but aren't sure you want doors, you could get the Big Daddy with either a 132 inch or 144 inch ridgeline.
    Good call. The 144 would provide a lot of coverage over the 120 hammock.
    Thanks, I did not think of that option.

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    Thank you all again for your assistance. I exchanged quite a few emails with Marty (@WL) today and decided on the 144" Big Daddy...I guess that would be the Really Bid Daddy.
    I had a few concerns that were quickly solved, so I am excited to make my first tarp purchase.

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    Great, I know I'm ringing in late, bfwiw, I love my big daddy with pullouts.

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    I have used my Big Daddy all winter and have used it this spring. There was one night in the middle of winter where I would have wanted doors, but even in mass showers the big daddy has been awesome. I would recommend it or the Toxaway from AHE. If you are settled on WL, Marty was easy to work with and my tarp came in quickly. I would definitely recommend tarp skins with this as well. I use orange glowire from lawson as my guyouts and ridgeline with simple prussiks on the guys and tarp flys on the ridgeline. really easy setup I think I have some pics of my WL big daddy somewhere.

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    fail

    well i uploaded to HF.net

    http://www.hammockforums.net/gallery...hp?i=17640&c=2

    this is a big daddy over and 11' hammock and I have the 11' ridgeline. My hammock is about a 108 - 110" ridgeline so I have about a foot of overlap on the ends.I have not gotten wet with this tarp, though I have had to move it once to block the rain.

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