My .02 -
My view of the main limitation of whoopie slings (and the reason I switched back to webbing) are as others have mentioned - the distance between trees needs to be further apart than with webbing and buckles.
This can be overcome by attaching a continuous loop around the whipping of the hammmock and either using some type of hardware to attach the loop to the whoopie (Dutch biner or climbing-rated carabiner) or build the loop directly into the whoopie sling. If the distance is shorter than can be managed with the whoopie slings, one can use the continuous loop over the MSH and toggle.
The limitations of either of the two approaches above would be -
- if you add hardware you are adding weight and bulk (the two main reasons to use whoopies anyways IMHO).
- if you build the loops into the whoopie sling you now cannot remove the suspension if it gets wet.
A secondary limitation of whoopie slings is the somewhat complexity and multiple pieces to loose.
My view of the limitations of webbing and buckles are the bulk and weight addition over whoopie slings.
This is made up for IMHO by the fact that, as mentioned above, in order to get the same versatility as webbing and buckles you have to either add hardware to your whoopie slings (thereby nearly nullifying the weight differential) or loose the ability to remove your whoppie slings.
Others have cited getting sap on your webbing and that being a deterrent for using webbing and buckles. You can fully detach the webbing from your hammock and store separately if this happens.
In the end, HYOH.
My OH is with webbing and buckles
I have used pretty much every suspension out there (aside from WV's new invention) and just recently I switched from a conventional whoopie sling suspension to Dutch's inverted whoopie with whoopie hook.
I can say that I have yet to run into the problem of not enough space between tree's, if my tarp fit's, my hammock fit's!
With the new Dutch suspension I find that I could hang between closer tree's than I could before. Also with the Dutch whoopie suspension it's all one piece, so nothing to lose. It's not permanently attached like a webbing/buckle suspension is, so if you were to lose the suspension it would mean the loss of whoopies and straps and since I hang from dynaglide, when I look back at my site I would see those bright neon green whoopies a hangin.
Also I like being able to store my wet suspension separately from my dry clothing and dry insulation, which is easier to do with whoopie type suspensions than to undo the straps from the buckles. IMHO, YMMV
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i am going to dump the carabiners and use toggles on my hh hammock with the whoopies to save a little more wieghtneo
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I am new to hammock camping have only done it for 3 nights. I am using Whoopie slings on my SBPro. The problem I am having is every night I have slept in it they seem to slip in the middle of the night. It isn't noticeable to me until I get up only to find my hammock barely hovering 2 inches above the ground. Is there something I might be doing wrong. I put the Whoopie slings on the the toggle knot of a marlin spike hitch then adjust the suspension until the hammock is a little more than waist high so when I sit in it I am about 18 inches off the ground. Only to wake up in the morning about 2 inches off the ground if that. Can someone help me sort this out?
What material are your straps made out of? Another possibility is that the straps are stretching.
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Another possibility is that your bury is too "short". I've seen 10" as recommended length. If it's shorter than that it might not hold solidly.