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    The Lightest Tree Huggers

    Hi all,

    First off, I know that Polyester webbing is the Go-To for tree huggers, but I am wondering if anyone has any experience with Polypropylene, or any other types of webbing. I am trying to get a SUL hammock setup and ordered samples of every style and flavor of webbing from Strapworks http://www.strapworks.com/default.asp trying to find a sweet spot for weight vs. stretch vs. strength.

    The 1" Polypropylene (0.21oz/ft) is less than half the weight of the 1" Polyester (0.48oz/ft) and still has a weight rating of 900lbs, which I am comfortable with, seeing as my Dynaglide Whoopies are only rated to 1000lbs.

    On Strapworks it says that Polypropylene doesn't have great abrasion resistance. Does anyone have any experience with the longevity of Polypropylene tree huggers.

    Aside from finding lighter materials, the other option to shed weight is, obviously, using less material. What do you all think of using 3/4", or even 5/8" polyester tree straps. Do you think that these would provide enough protection to the bark.

    Finally, There is also "Seat Belt" Polyester webbing. This stuff is lighter than the standard polyester, but has very similar strength. Is there anyone that knows how well this holds up in the field? I would think it would be OK seeing as I have never seen a torn or tattered seat belt...and those things see a lot of daily use-and-abuse.

    Any constructive input would be greatly appreciated.
    Last edited by Coeptus; 05-08-2012 at 20:53.
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    The strapping I typically use weighs the same as the 0.21oz/ft stuff you quote. Didn't get it from strapworks though, and I think it is polyester. Bought a roll of it a couple of years ago. 1" wide.

    I would not go narrower to save weight. You can cook up combinations of webbing and cord though, if you're really and truly a gram weenie, and it can shave off a little bit. I demo'd an idea for that in this video. Basic idea is to limit the webbing to the back of the tree, up the sides, and then come forward with cord. It takes a bit more time to put up a tree strap, but it's not difficult.
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    I use the 1" seat belt from strapworks. Don't see any wear or stretch with it yet.

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    Grizz,

    That video was very helpful, I have a couple ideas that I will have to try regarding that hybrid cord/webbing tree strap system.

    Regarding the UCR suspension you are using in the video. Is there a thread detailing the construction and use of this system? I have tried to search the forum but have unfortunately came up empty handed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coeptus View Post
    Grizz,

    That video was very helpful, I have a couple ideas that I will have to try regarding that hybrid cord/webbing tree strap system.

    Regarding the UCR suspension you are using in the video. Is there a thread detailing the construction and use of this system? I have tried to search the forum but have unfortunately came up empty handed.
    Here is a YouTube video from Opie that talks about UCR's

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBiGD...e_gdata_player
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    I use mule tape as my strap. Durable, very light weight, doesn't damage tree, clings like it should, hold the marlin just fine, and no sliding.....and free if you know someone special that frequents construction sites.

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    At times, I consider myself a gram weenie, but there are areas that I turn a blind eye, somewhat, and that is suspension lines. After all, this is the part of the hammock that can bear a variety of load stress, even more than what is present in the hammock, thanks to physics.

    http://theultimatehang.com/hammock-hang-calculator/

    My recommendation: don't skimp on your life-line. While this may not be lead climbing on Half Dome, I'd much rather carry an extra gram than have a shattered hip bone.

    That said, straps aren't usually that heavy if you shop around. I bought some raylon(?) straps from Walmart that were very light, no stretch, and have yet to fail. I think they are polypropylene based.

    I've also come to like DutchWare's whoopie hook system. Like Grizz recommended, it has a shorter strap and saves weight with the cord. Whoopie slings use more cord than UCRs, but it is still a lighter system and requires less fiddling than other options.

    Sgt. Rock's post on a 13 oz hammock set up is still worth reading, even though he is trying an even lighter cuben fiber hammock system now.

    http://www.hammockforums.net/forum/s...ad.php?t=20614

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    0.48 oz for polyester??? That's crazy heavy for polyester webbing. Look around some more there is good quality polyester that is rated higher and weighs less than half that available from several of us actual hammock vendors.
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    polypro

    Where I mostly backpack, the trees have rough bark and are seldom more than a foot thick. At my 150# of weight, I'm using polypro webbing that is not too long, which reduces the stretch. It has lasted for 80-100 nights so far.

    Due to liability, some materials that may be fine for some hangers are less often sold because they may not be safe for others.

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    I just bought a roll of this stuff. PM me your address and I will send you a sample set of tree straps. It is rated at 900 lbs and lightweight.-Groovy

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