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    having a tough time switching from pads to underquilts

    i am having a tough time switching from pads to underquilts.i have recently bought a jarbridge river and 20 degree phoenix,both great qulits.i have been hammock camping for 10 years now using only pads in very cold weather with great success,quilts dont work at all on dd hammocks,the work half way on hennessey hammock.best results on my claytor jungle,does everyone have problems making the changeneo
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    Maybe you are just accustomed to the slight rigidity a pad provides. Are you comfortable in the hammock alone with no pad or quilt?
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    The quilts wll not stay in place so quilts are not working for me.no matter which quilt i use on different hammocks i get the same bad results ,the quilts dont stay under me,i am about to give up on under quiltsneo
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    Quote Originally Posted by neo View Post
    The quilts wll not stay in place so quilts are not working for me.no matter which quilt i use on different hammocks i get the same bad results ,the quilts dont stay under me,i am about to give up on under quiltsneo
    So are the quilts warm until they move from under you? If that is the case, you just need to solve that one problem.

    Dutch does make some quilt hooks that will fit on your hammocks, he makes several different kinds. In the meantime, try those suggestions from others and from me in my 1st post in this thread, about tightening the suspension more on one side and/or safety pins.

    If I could come to your upcoming hang out, we could work on it. ( But I will be in GA for 45th HS reunion). But I bet there will be others there who use their quilts successfully, and they might have some things they can show you that would be helpful.

    OTOH, you are a long time pad user with no problems whatsoever. For those who like pads, you can not beat the simplicity and cost and you are already set for emergency going to ground, and you already have your sit pad. Water proof/Windproof/ bombproof. So you are in the lucky group that loves pads. For those lucky people who are totally warm AND comfortable on pads, the only advantage I can think of for an UQ is less bulk, period. So, if you are getting beyond the amount of time and hassle you are willing to spend on the UQ learning curve, then nothing wrong with just selling the quilts and sticking with what you know works for you every time.
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    Sounds like you're having some issues with the suspension adjustment rather than an actual quilt problem. Maybe you need some 1-on-1 with an experienced "quilter". I only have a 3/4 lengh (shoulders to knees). I still use a small pad under my feet.

    Does the quilt actually end up bunched up on one side of the hammock (shot out from under you) or is it drooping away from your backside? This info will probably help the folks here better diagnose the issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zukiguy View Post
    Sounds like you're having some issues with the suspension adjustment rather than an actual quilt problem. Maybe you need some 1-on-1 with an experienced "quilter". I only have a 3/4 lengh (shoulders to knees). I still use a small pad under my feet.

    Does the quilt actually end up bunched up on one side of the hammock (shot out from under you) or is it drooping away from your backside? This info will probably help the folks here better diagnose the issue.
    trust me i have done all kinds of adjustmentsneo
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    Quote Originally Posted by neo View Post
    trust me i have done all kinds of adjustmentsneo
    Not all kinds, otherwise you wouldn't have started this thread. Quilts work...get someone who knows what they're doing to help you in person. Until you've done that, don't give up.
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    Neo, you are reporting a problem that many others have reported before you. I have not had a lot of problems with this myself, I'm just basing this on the number of threads started here over the years.

    As you are finding, unlike a pad which you just put in a pad pocket and lay on it, a quilts fit must be perfect and must stay that way through the night. And the way all of this comes together seems to vary with the UQ, the hammock and even the individual. Plus, it has to stay that way all night as you move in your sleep.

    I used to have a lot of trouble with my WB Climashield Yeti slipping off of my left shoulder during the night ( or moving up causing a gap). I also had trouble getting my TQ tucked under my left shoulder while still keeping the Yeti in position. I finally solved most of this problem by shortening the left shock cord relative to the right side. So that when I tighten the whole thing, the left side is a good bit tighter, and the quilt is not so quick to slip off my shoulder anymore. But some combos I think are without any fiddle factor: A HHSS once you get it installed as directed, a Speer PeaPod ( no way for me to get off of a warm spot with that). And ditto a JRB MW on a JRB Bridge hammock. Only way I can come off of that head to toe warm area would be to fall out of the hammock, and no adjustments other than just put it on as directed. But that same quilt was a lot trickier on my WBBB. Though, once I got the foot box to stay in place ( had to fiddle with suspension) it stayed in place keeping me very warm through a very windy 18F night. So the quilt/hammock matchup can be tricky.

    But another thing you might try: figure out where the quilt is supposed to be once you are in your optimal position in the hammock. And get your quilt adjusted in perfect position with no gaps. Then take a small safety pin and pin either the the quilt suspension or fabric edge to the edge of your hammock on near the left shoulder and maybe the foot. Plus, Dutch makes some doo-hickeys designed just for this job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BillyBob58 View Post
    Neo, you are reporting a problem that many others have reported before you. I have not had a lot of problems with this myself, I'm just basing this on the number of threads started here over the years.

    As you are finding, unlike a pad which you just put in a pad pocket and lay on it, a quilts fit must be perfect and must stay that way through the night. And the way all of this comes together seems to vary with the UQ, the hammock and even the individual. Plus, it has to stay that way all night as you move in your sleep.

    I used to have a lot of trouble with my WB Climashield Yeti slipping off of my left shoulder during the night ( or moving up causing a gap). I also had trouble getting my TQ tucked under my left shoulder while still keeping the Yeti in position. I finally solved most of this problem by shortening the left shock cord relative to the right side. So that when I tighten the whole thing, the left side is a good bit tighter, and the quilt is not so quick to slip off my shoulder anymore. But some combos I think are without any fiddle factor: A HHSS once you get it installed as directed, a Speer PeaPod ( no way for me to get off of a warm spot with that). And ditto a JRB MW on a JRB Bridge hammock. Only way I can come off of that head to toe warm area would be to fall out of the hammock, and no adjustments other than just put it on as directed. But that same quilt was a lot trickier on my WBBB. Though, once I got the foot box to stay in place ( had to fiddle with suspension) it stayed in place keeping me very warm through a very windy 18F night. So the quilt/hammock matchup can be tricky.)

    But another thing you might try: figure out where the quilt is supposed to be once you are in your optimal position in the hammock. And get your quilt adjusted in perfect position with no gaps. Then take a small safety pin and pin either the the quilt suspension or fabric edge to the edge of your hammock on near the left shoulder and maybe the foot. Plus, Dutch makes some doo-hickeys designed just for this job.
    i dont believe quilts are going to work for me,they slip out from under me
    i dont trust them plus the dont look right on a hammock to me,i think i am one those people that were just to stick with pads lolneo
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    Quote Originally Posted by BillyBob58 View Post
    <snip>

    But another thing you might try: figure out where the quilt is supposed to be once you are in your optimal position in the hammock. And get your quilt adjusted in perfect position with no gaps. Then take a small safety pin and pin either the the quilt suspension or fabric edge to the edge of your hammock on near the left shoulder and maybe the foot. <snip>

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    Exactly. Safety pins.
    $1. No need to mail order.

    For $1 more, they come big and brass-coated. Safe enough for infant diapers. No sewing or commitment to location required. Mount several. Then quick-release to the UQ loops with 4g shower rings or .9g velcro ties, $.10 and $.008 each.

    Safety pins might come undone? A touch of super-glue takes of that. How to remove? Snippers or pliers.

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