Just curious on the general consensus.
I've got a DB60 on order, single layer, and I'm wondering what the pro's/con's are regarding 2 layers...and no I don't weigh over 300 lbs. Not even 200lbs in case you're curious.
Just curious on the general consensus.
I've got a DB60 on order, single layer, and I'm wondering what the pro's/con's are regarding 2 layers...and no I don't weigh over 300 lbs. Not even 200lbs in case you're curious.
My take on it is if you use an underquilt all of the time and no pad, then a single layer will suffice and reduce weight/bulk. The second layer is nice for using a pad, also helps in the summer if you don't use and uq or pad with insects biting through.
I agree with fallkniven. The double layer hammocks are essentially required if you use full length pads. Otherwise, it's not important.
Mike
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A double layer hammock is less breathable than an one layer hammock ...
I only use quilts, mostly partial under quilts and I prefer the double layer hammocks. I like to use the double layer to hold some Insul-Bright in the winter months. The rest of the time it holds my foot pad in place. The single layer hammocks force me to put a pad in my TQ and that is less comfortable to me.
I prefer the dbl layer hammocks and will stick with them even if there is a weight penalty.
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I like a double layer because of versatility. Right now it's warm in New Jersey and I don't need my HG 20* Phoenix UQ, so I'm using just a pad. And pads in a single layer are a pain to get situated underneath you.
My BIAS DL is my favorite hammock, the most comfortable I own, but I really just got it so I could loan it to taller friends who didn't have a UQ and needed a pad. No way I'm giving them my UQ. Buy your own!
I only sleep in single layers. Unless you use pads or like less stretch, you really don't need to carry the extra weight.
S
Pads are are the primary use for DL, but stretch can be a factor even for this using an UQ. My DL 1.0 and 1.1 hammocks are more comfortable (to me) than my SL 1.7. I never use a pad. That stated, some folks prefer a soft bed and some prefer a firm one.
Another variable is the fabric you are using on the DB. Is it the 2.1 poly? If so that could certainly change the stretch factor. It's apples and oranges.
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I agree, and in the heat of summer, nothing can match the delicious coolness felt when a breeze brushes that single layer of nylon. Heaven!
But there's more to it than that. Others have addressed the insect and pad issues, but consider: in recent weeks, we've had reports of at least 2 fabric failures, both single layers (Speer and DIY). I don't remember hearing of any comparable failures of doubles. Help me out here...anyone heard of a double layer failure?
Dave
"Loneliness is the poverty of self; solitude is the richness of self."~~~May Sarton
Most of this has already been said in some form or another:
A single layer is my preferred hammock, but the fact is a double layer + a pad is way, way cheaper than an underquilt. Literally, you're talking $40 for the difference between a SL and a DL and a pad is $10. So that's $50 for back protection/warmth.
To me, that's it. If you're on a budget and can only afford one hammock and an underquilt is out of your price range, I'd opt for a DL. It would save you between $100 and $150.
If you're not worried about the cost of an UQ or if you are only a summertime camper, go for the SL and save some weight. Like SilvrSurfr, I see a DL as a loaner... something my wife and kids can use in shoulder seasons without my having to ante up for an underquilt (or fight my sewing machine and make one... even if you make your own, down isn't cheap).
Good question, by the way. I've enjoyed the answers.
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