90 degree experience was in the Dirigible and also in the Graf; two different hikes both in the summer.
Both of these socks were set up loosely in those temps, the SEEPs were fully in the down position when I went to bed, one night I even pushed the underquilt-protector portion of the sock out from under the hammock/quilt. In both cases later in the morning when it had cooled off (and really felt cool in the mid 60s relative to the sleep time temps) I pulled either the under protector back in position, raised the SEEP, or both. Even in those temps I had the 2/3 underquilt attached (50F model by Te-wa). Also as is my habit I carried a 1/8 inch ccf but didn't deploy.
So truth of the matter the sock was in the above examples not a sock at first, only the wee hours of the following morning was it back in true sock mode....but that is the beauty of the HNO sock design being able to morph back and forth quite easily. Speaking of, the AirShip can handily convert to ground bivy-shelter if need be; easier if you have hiking poles. The Graf and Dirigible not so easily. In bivy-shelter mode you'd best want a sacrificial ground sheet to protect the cuben and/or m50.
If you've seen any of the vids you might remember Poof and I sitting under the tarp portion of one of the HNO socks with the rear portion of the sock staked out behind, the under protector portion and the SEEP also pulled back and out of the way.
There was one time also in the 90s on Goat Island where it was also in the 90s where I did sleep in full SEEP up position but that was in a Molly-Mack Sock. I simply slept naked until the morning cool off and upon waking pulled a cover over me...this sock had built in insulation.
Back to the really hot hangs using the Dirigible, Graf or AirShip.....No condensation that I can recall....reason most likely for 2 reaons=I'm not a wet breather and being basically in wide open tarp mode. Then again I've had little condensation even when in full on SEEP up mode. Which brings up something all potential socks users must consider and that is how much moisture they put off in a given night.
As has been mentioned in threads of the past Poof puts off way more moisture than I do and has had condensation in the bottom of the sock where I exactly in the same situation did not (and she was even using the sock with even more breathable cuben).
FireInMyBones has already figured that he's a wet-breather and plans his sock attack with a different design to allow a constant air flow/movement. Quizz him for more details on that.
I won't tell you guys I've never had condensation. In the deep cold I too have had frost-over on the inside of the tarp portion...several time it was still frozen cold in the a.m. A quick reversal and shake and it was gone. On one mid-season overnighter it was palpable liquid (and not raining) so when packing up I flipped the tarp portion over and all-in-one packed up everything regardless--because the total amount of liquid was my best guess around a tablespoon ---an amount I knew my body heat would quickly dry the next night once I got in the rig. Poof too has had to do this, pack up with known condensate, and the next night within short time it was heated away with body heat.
The concern of condensate is now further mitigated by my use exclusively of the water proof down....for the little amount I will ever get it is just not even a concern. I could go on and on and on and on.
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Originally Posted by tylojuky
Someone jumping in the thread at that point might have thought these were issues with OP sock.
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