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    Senior Member Patrick's Avatar
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    Heaviest suspension vs. lightest?

    My current setup is straps, cinch buckles, and carabiners. Tonight, I played around with whoopie slings and marlin spike hitches using trail sticks. These strike me as about the heaviest and lightest common suspension options.

    Here's what I have per side.

    Cinches:

    - On Rope cinch buckle lark's headed to hammock body with 2.8mm Sypderline
    - 12' heavyweight polypro 1" webbing threaded through buckle with loop sewn into the tree end
    - Trek Light biner attached to loop
    - Weight, not including hammock: 133g.

    Whoopies:

    - 6' Amsteel 7/64 whoopie sling lark's headed to the hammock body via a fixed eye
    - 6' heavyweight polypro 1" webbing using a trail stick for a marlin spike hitch.
    - Weight, not including hammock: 68g.

    That's a difference of 65g per side, 4.6oz total.

    Not an insignificant savings, but it doesn't seem like much of a spread from the lightest to the heaviest options.

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    That matches up with what I figured out early on, but I ended up switching to Whoopies anyway. 4 ounces here, other ounces somewhere else, and I lost a pound of pack weight. Does that make me hike easier? No. Does it make my set up less difficult? Not really. Does it draw attention from non-hammockers? Yep, and that is good enough for me. If I can convert one other person to sleep off the ground, I feel like maybe I have returned something to this community.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick View Post
    That's a difference of 65g per side, 4.6oz total.
    take that "times x" per step you take on your next hike and see what the difference is.......

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    Mu suspension weighs 2.5oz total (both ends of the hammock).
    But, I'm pushing the limits. 7' Dynaglide UCR's and 3' light duty 1" polyester straps rated at 900# break strength.
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    I wonder what the bulk difference is? May not be a big difference but space savings add up too.
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    Both are great options, what sold me on the strap suspension vs whoopies was the simplicity and the shorter spans I could hang. And I just feel more secure on webbing than on 1/8" or less cording.(less worry better sleep) Another thing although not usually an issue is here in the NW I would carry longer straps anyway, just cause we do have some big trees. So I don't really think there would be much for weight saving for myself.

    Its all just personal preference.. I like and have converted every hammock I own over to the webbing. I may make a DIY hammock eventually and if I do I may try some whoopies just to learn how to make them. But for miles on the trail, ill stick to my webbing.
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    There are a lot of strap fans, but whoopies are light, cool, and fun to make. I just don't like fiddling with straps so I've never even tried them. It's all personal preference, though, and if people want to take a weight penalty for the benefits of straps, it's their choice.

    Maybe I should try straps to see if I like them.

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    The thing I like about straps is that they can be rolled up into a nice small package and hardly ever get tangled up.

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    6' UCRs and 4'8" straps 59.4 grams with whoopie hooks - both sides total. Shortest hang is about 10'. I find strap only less user friendly than this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SilvrSurfr View Post
    There are a lot of strap fans, but whoopies are light, cool, and fun to make. I just don't like fiddling with straps so I've never even tried them. It's all personal preference, though, and if people want to take a weight penalty for the benefits of straps, it's their choice.

    Maybe I should try straps to see if I like them.
    I use both...there's a whole lot less fiddle in a strap suspension than whoopies. There's also a lot more bulk (in spades if you use ring buckles). But, you can't walk off and leave your tree straps. No easy answers.

    I favor the straps, but it's a love/hate kinda deal.
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