Heaviest suspension vs. lightest?

**hppyfngy** · 06-09-2012, 16:47

Originally Posted by MAD777

Mu suspension weighs 2.5oz total (both ends of the hammock).

Wow. That is light!

**SGT Rock** · 06-09-2012, 18:02

Originally Posted by Patrick

Here's what I have per side.

- Weight, not including hammock: 133g.

That is close to what my weight is for my entire hammock and suspension.

**SGT Rock** · 06-09-2012, 18:03

Originally Posted by hppyfngy

Wow. That is light!

That is a good weight. Mine is slightly lighter, but I suspect his is a little longer. Probably worth the 0.4 ounces

**SGT Rock** · 06-09-2012, 18:35

BTW, after posting that I thought it might sound as if I were bragging. I sincerely apologize if anyone takes it that way. There are no winners for lower weight. It's all good if you are having a good time.

**gunner76** · 06-09-2012, 19:16

I like the KISS format of doing things...

Keep It Simple, Stupid

I use the straps with Dutch Clips as I find it makes for a very fast easy setup. I have one moving part, the cinch buckle.

my .02 cents worth.

**Patrick** · 07-16-2012, 10:22

I gave the whoopies a fair shake last week from Gorham to Grafton Notch. I've really fallen in love with rope splicing and I think the whoopies are super cool, but I'm going back to straps and buckles.

I find the straps easier to set up and adjust, but that's not a deciding factor. I knew that going in and was willing to fiddle a little more to save some weight.

Another issue which may just be unfamiliarity is sense of security. Even with inch-thick sticks for toggles on the MSH, I still didn't feel totally confident. Again, I recognize that this is likely just getting used to something new.

More important to me were keeping the straps separate and strap wear.

I came pretty close to walking away from the tree straps my second morning out. I know this can be addressed by forming good habits, but keeping things simple and one-piece is a big advantage in my mind.

My old straps look almost exactly the same today as they did before my AT thru-hike last year. The biner and buckle system just doesn't put any significant wear on them. The tree straps I used last week already look worse.

I'm not advocating anyone do one thing or the other. I don't care what you carry. Just thought I'd share my experiences in case it would help anyone else.

**Black Wolf** · 07-16-2012, 11:07

Originally Posted by SilvrSurfr

There are a lot of strap fans, but whoopies are light, cool, and fun to make. I just don't like fiddling with straps so I've never even tried them. It's all personal preference, though, and if people want to take a weight penalty for the benefits of straps, it's their choice.

Maybe I should try straps to see if I like them.

Yep ... making whoopie is fun !!

**wanderlustman** · 09-01-2016, 20:01

I agree 1000% and not just in outdoor gear for that principle. Well placed simplicity alleviates problems fo sho.

**Phantom Grappler** · 09-02-2016, 10:58

While this is a suspension I don't use. HitchHiker suspension has a good strength to weight ratio. It is composed of a set of Dutch Kevlar straps and nothing else. Put strap around tree and pass it through its own loop. Then attach strap directly to hammock using a marlin spike hitch around gathered end. I don't like that its fiddly to adjust and can forget strap on tree when breaking camp. Well at least it's simple and has no moving parts and you can buy it already to use.

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**mcbpdx** · 09-02-2016, 11:30

I started off using whoopie slings and switched to cinch buckles. Although I have far more hangs with whoopies, I really like the adjustability of the cinch buckle system and the speed of using Dutch Clips. I can setup in less time and span a broader range of distances. I do zero hiking with my setup, however, so that may influence my decision (possibly).

It is really fun to splice Amsteel and like freaking everyone out with its strength.

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