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    Fat Trees!

    So I was out this last weekend and was in an area with a large amount of fatty trees. Most were too big for my 70" tree straps, but I did manage to find a set that would work.

    I'm running whoopies & tree savers with loops on both ends. My question:

    What do you do when your straps won't get around your tree?

    For the sake of argument, finding other trees is NOT a possibility. Make it work, or go to ground.

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    I've had that problem a few times, sooo...I made myself a set of tree savers that are both eight foot in length. Pretty much took care of the issue. I keep a couple different ropes though just in case I run across two redwood sized trees in western PA.

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    Add in some extra rope at the end of your tree savers... 550 would work in this pinch because you wouldn't have but a few feet and its kind of a dire situation... Always carry extra rope that you would feel comfortable putting all your weight on... Never know if you will need it for first aid to drag someone up a hill or a million other uses...
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    Carry 2 sets of straps. Make whoopie extensions to carry,,mine are 4' long with a locked brummel loop at each end,,you can make them any size..to use with each strap,,just be sure to put some small wood pieces around tree if rope is against bark.

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    Carry amsteel "extenders"...just a length of amsteel with fixed eyes in both ends.

    If your trees are close enough/your whoopies long enough, you can run the whoopie through the loop on one end of the tree strap, wrap the strap as far as it will go around the tree and use a biner to attach the whoopie to the free end of the strap.

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    i carry a 5' strap, and an 8' strap.

    also , i bring along an extra whoopie sling or 'extender'- both made from dynaglide.
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    I just carry stupid long straps. I think the last ones I made are 10' x 1-1/2". Yes, this is overkill for most of the time but I'm kind of spreading out the wear and tear over the entire length. When a tree is small enough I double up the strap and basically make a larks head around the tree then tie my MSH to the free ends. If the tree is much bigger then I just loop it around the tree as normal. Sometimes I'll double it and feed the the end through both loops (hope that makes sense). Either way the full length of my strap is somewhat equally beat up from use and the extra width takes a load off the bark where I camp (lots of palm trees and some HUGE oaks where the extra length is necessary).

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    So glad this was asked! Wasn't sure what the sage advisers round here might have to say.

    I threw some of these on a recent order because we have plenty of big trees, and often where I am I don't always get the best selection. http://arrowheadequipment.webs.com/a...s/show/1406497

    Though I am not certain the recommended way to attach them. I was thinking of using the same process that I would lengthen typical webbing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brute1100 View Post
    550 would work ...
    I would not trust paracord as suspension line. Its breaking strenght is to close to the actual tension. At a 30 degree angle it needs to hold your full weight. Would you dare to hang from a paracord line?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tjalling View Post
    I would not trust paracord as suspension line. Its breaking strenght is to close to the actual tension. At a 30 degree angle it needs to hold your full weight. Would you dare to hang from a paracord line?
    I've actually tested a paracord extension before with my stock HH suspension set up. Worked fine each time, 3 times total. I would not recommend doing this on a regular basis for a number of reasons.

    1) Paracord stretch.
    2) Dissimilar ropes, possiblity of them biting into each other and causing further wear in addition to the derating with included knots.
    3) 550lb test is higher than axial load applied, but does not take into account dynamic forces, which I hear can be quite high. Though I have not had time to analyze this myself.

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