Semi Newb Question

**BrockLee** · 07-10-2012, 15:21

I have a stock HH and am looking to swap out the suspension system.

I don't want a complicated system, but I also want to keep it light.

I find tree straps into whoopieslings into your hammock is just overkill and wonder why people don't just use tree straps with tri-glides (from JRB) that attach via a biner to a loop on your hammock.

Any input into why this isn't popular? Too heavy?

Thanks. I've read around and there's just too much info on this site.

**dragon360** · 07-10-2012, 15:29

The strap system of Tri-Glides and Warbonnet triangle buckles is not too heavy . . . just heavier than many others. I have either used or own most if not all suspensions and right now partial to Dutch's whoopie hook system. Easy and light.

**BrockLee** · 07-10-2012, 17:42

Whoopie slings require on each side...
Tree strap
Marlin knotted to
Whoopie sling
Tied to
Hammock end

Whoopie hooks require on each side...
Tree strap
Square knotted to
Whoopie sling
Whoopie hooked to
Amsteel continuous loop
Tied to
Hammock

Seems overly complex when you could use on each side...
Tree strap
Tri-glided to itself and with a carabiner (or better method) connected to
Amsteel continuous loop
Tied to
Hammock

Is there that much weight savings and where is it? Is it in using more strapping than amsteel? Or a tri-glide weighs much more than a whoopie hook?

Thanks.

**FLRider** · 07-11-2012, 00:11

Most of where you save via Whoopie Slings is in bulk, not weight (though, as a byproduct of that, you can have a slightly smaller backpack, which will save you more weight, in theory).

The tri-glide system is simple, but difficult to adjust if you're using gloves in winter (and, supposedly, Whoopie Slings are as well; I've not personally used them under such conditions, though).

A ring and strap system (or the buckle adjustment system sold by both Arrowhead and Warbonnet) is easy to use year-round, even with gloves on. It's also easier to set up and adjust; simply run the strap 'round the tree, clip the 'biner (or Dutch Clip) to the strap, and adjust at the rings/buckles. That's it, aside from tying a slippery half-hitch to avoid slippage overnight.

It's a little heavier than the tri-glide system, but the ease of use is worth it to me.

(I know I said most of this in that PM, but I figured it'd be worth having here for everyone else to read, too.)

**Bubba** · 07-11-2012, 07:50

Whatever works for you. Hand Your Own Hang.

**titanium_hiker** · 07-11-2012, 07:57

Just straps is a pretty light option- but pesky to adjust.

Slings are just fun to play with. I know I spent a good 10 minutes just adjusting them when I got my pair (I am no splicer- I bought mine) I still haven't managed to get them on a hammock yet, but summer is coming... after 1 more miserable month of winter...

TH

**crazy_dave** · 07-11-2012, 07:58

Originally Posted by FLRider

Most of where you save via Whoopie Slings is in bulk, not weight (though, as a byproduct of that, you can have a slightly smaller backpack, which will save you more weight, in theory).

The tri-glide system is simple, but difficult to adjust if you're using gloves in winter (and, supposedly, Whoopie Slings are as well; I've not personally used them under such conditions, though).

A ring and strap system (or the buckle adjustment system sold by both Arrowhead and Warbonnet) is easy to use year-round, even with gloves on. It's also easier to set up and adjust; simply run the strap 'round the tree, clip the 'biner (or Dutch Clip) to the strap, and adjust at the rings/buckles. That's it, aside from tying a slippery half-hitch to avoid slippage overnight.

It's a little heavier than the tri-glide system, but the ease of use is worth it to me.

(I know I said most of this in that PM, but I figured it'd be worth having here for everyone else to read, too.)

Just to add a little. With the webbing and rings system you don’t need a minimum distance between trees. Where you do with Whoopies.
I use both setups, I just find webbing and rings to be more versatile for me.

**BrockLee** · 07-11-2012, 09:27

I appreciate all of your comments.

I think I'm going to buy a pair of JRB tri-glides and see if I like them.

My friend has a whoopie sling setup via a Marlin hitch to DIY tree straps so I've had my fun of playing with whoopies. I wanted something simpler which I think tri-glides provide.