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    So I've received my tarseer couple of days back, I haven't had a chance to take it on the trail yet but after a quick test hang yesterday I'm quite excited. It seems to be pretty solid and suitable for my purposes, good for lightweight sleeping but not much in the way of luxuries. Turns out the suspension relies on pull knots which works fine after I spent some time learning the knots. On my test hang I had no trouble finding suitable trees so I didn't yet test using improvised spreader bar. I find it quite comfortable though definitely toasty in 20 °C.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackR View Post
    So I've received my tarseer couple of days back, I haven't had a chance to take it on the trail yet but after a quick test hang yesterday I'm quite excited. It seems to be pretty solid and suitable for my purposes, good for lightweight sleeping but not much in the way of luxuries. Turns out the suspension relies on pull knots which works fine after I spent some time learning the knots. On my test hang I had no trouble finding suitable trees so I didn't yet test using improvised spreader bar. I find it quite comfortable though definitely toasty in 20 °C.
    I'm betting (or guessing since I have only seen the pictures Elias has posted) that you could modify the suspension to whoopies if desired. The foot end I think would be easy to put a fixed eye in the amsteel suspension on each side to attach the whoopie slings. The head end might require a little more work in shortening the straps, bar tacking a loop at their free ends and then attaching the ws. Just a thought.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackR View Post
    So I've received my tarseer couple of days back, I haven't had a chance to take it on the trail yet but after a quick test hang yesterday I'm quite excited. It seems to be pretty solid and suitable for my purposes, good for lightweight sleeping but not much in the way of luxuries. Turns out the suspension relies on pull knots which works fine after I spent some time learning the knots. On my test hang I had no trouble finding suitable trees so I didn't yet test using improvised spreader bar. I find it quite comfortable though definitely toasty in 20 °C.
    Quote Originally Posted by BER View Post
    I'm betting (or guessing since I have only seen the pictures Elias has posted) that you could modify the suspension to whoopies if desired. The foot end I think would be easy to put a fixed eye in the amsteel suspension on each side to attach the whoopie slings. The head end might require a little more work in shortening the straps, bar tacking a loop at their free ends and then attaching the ws. Just a thought.
    Though similarly disadvantaged by ignorance, I will chime in. It looks like the hammock hangs best with the head end quite close to a tree, so it may be that only the foot end needs to be adjustable. If that's so, BER's suggestion of a single whoopie for the foot end would be perfect. Check it out and let us know if he truly qualifies as an idiot savant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WV View Post
    Though similarly disadvantaged by ignorance, I will chime in. It looks like the hammock hangs best with the head end quite close to a tree, so it may be that only the foot end needs to be adjustable. If that's so, BER's suggestion of a single whoopie for the foot end would be perfect. Check it out and let us know if he truly qualifies as an idiot savant.
    Thanks David........

    ........I think.

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    As soon as I saw this, I thought... spreader bar would make it work with two hang points. Then there is the pic with one in use. Voila.

    Removing any chance to have a draft between quilt and hammock - brilliant!

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    Quote Originally Posted by WV View Post
    Though similarly disadvantaged by ignorance, I will chime in. It looks like the hammock hangs best with the head end quite close to a tree, so it may be that only the foot end needs to be adjustable. If that's so, BER's suggestion of a single whoopie for the foot end would be perfect. Check it out and let us know if he truly qualifies as an idiot savant.
    It would be possible to modify whoopies but I would not advice this especially for the head end. As WV points out Tarseer is usually best set up with the head end close to the suspension points and adjusting the head end is rarely necessary. Also having whoopies would in my opinion limit your choice of suspension points. Say you want to hang the head end around a single large tree or you want to use the trunk as one head end suspension point and a large branch of the same tree as the other or use a trunk of a fallen tree for both... In all of these cases it is likely that you want to set at least one of the head end suspension points very close to the trunk or branch or whatever it is your hanging from and I don't see how you can do this with whoopies.

    For the foot end which is generally further away a whoopie sling might make sense, but then again tying the tarseer with pull knots as it is takes less than a minute and taking it down is probably faster than any system involving some kind of buckles or biners.

    That being said, if you still prefer whoopies or any other type of suspension I don't see why it couldn't be done.

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    took some pictures today and also tried out the spreader bar. The system to attach your improvised spreader seems to be different to the one you could see in the images posted by MadTree regarding the mosquito net though it works fine.

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    http://imageshack.us/g/855/p8070078.jpg/
    Last edited by BlackR; 08-06-2012 at 22:04.

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    Whoa. That thing packs up seriously small for an all-in-one setup. Add only a tarp, and you've essentially got it all, no? Looks very interesting indeed, and a spreader bar removes on of my two most seriuos concerns of versatility in terms of having to find one more tree. The other is length, as I am 186 cm, and do like to feel roomy - is it enough?

    Doing most of my hanging in Sweden it is made pretty much for the same conditions too.. hmmm, what's my budget this month..

    Hyvää!

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    K0m4, I'm 1cm taller than you (187) and I fit in Tarseer just fine but regardless of your height I can't say that Tarseer would feel especially roomy. I'd compare the experience to sleeping in a mummy style sleeping bag. Can't do jumper jacks but won't be too crammed either.

    Just to clear things up the spreader bar attachment system remains the same as seen in pictures posted by BlackR. We have experimented with other designs (as can be seen from my earlier pictures) but using prusik loops and small biners has the advantage of having very few requirements in terms of length and thickness for whatever it is you're using as a spreader.

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