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    Quote Originally Posted by txulrich View Post
    If you whip the working end to the standing end on your double sheet bend, it'll hold forever. It pretty much makes it permanent.
    I was referring to why the anchor hitch slipped. My sheet bend dropped me because I didn't tie it correctly.

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    Forgot to mention on my Three Ridges trip report that my rings slipped Saturday night. Slow enough that it didn't hurt, but too fast for me to get out of the hammock...let me down gently onto my back.

    I redid the Air Core part so I could use tensioners/prussik for the tarp...I think the rings weren't lined up right when I got back in. So I made sure everything was lined up correctly and it didn't happen again. But yeah - not idiot-proof enough to sell.

    The tensioner on the ridgeline didn't work well either - too much wind deflection. I'll post more when I get the page up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Just Jeff View Post
    I redid the Air Core part so I could use tensioners/prussik for the tarp
    The tensioner on the ridgeline didn't work well either - too much wind deflection. I'll post more when I get the page up.
    i'll be interested to hear more about ridge line tensioner.
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    I've gone down the ring route and never one to shy away from controversy I have gone with unrated welded rings from a hardware store.

    My thoughts on this -
    In a perfect world I'd get a hold of some decending rings but my search for some was pretty fruitless, the only ones I could find were huge Ally doughnuts.
    I'd consider them individually strong enough so having them paired up they'll hopefully be golden.

    Anyhow, they haven't failed yet, I don't expect them to fail catastrophically if they did.

    I played around with a few knot variations taking into consideration the methods mentioned in above posts but in the end went for a relatively simple bowline. I haven't cinched the knot tight to the rings to avoid miss alignment issues. Sometimes I was getting slippage so I started to double up the webbing which helped (also helped when taking down) but now I generally send it though singularly and finish with an improvised Evenk type knot so the webbing cannot slip.
    I find having the rings loose helps me to release the system since there is play between the rings if required.
    YMMV etc

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    Here is a cool Evenk knot for hammocks:
    http://website.lineone.net/~mark.emery/Evenk.htm

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    Great link Funbun. The second knot is probably closer to what I do really, just a handy way to back up my ring setup. The drip prevention I had not really thought of.

    Here is a video of an Evenk knot (and a slippery hitch) that this bloke uses for setting up his tarp which might be of interest.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DR3DMj-zJu8

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drop View Post
    Great link Funbun. The second knot is probably closer to what I do really, just a handy way to back up my ring setup. The drip prevention I had not really thought of.

    Here is a video of an Evenk knot (and a slippery hitch) that this bloke uses for setting up his tarp which might be of interest.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DR3DMj-zJu8
    That guy has some cool videos. Thanks for the link.
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    Question. When you sew the loops on the ends of the webbing, do you need an extra strength needle. All I have are normal needles, and I didnt know if this would work. Also, for the sewing, you just make the box with the x through the middle? Could you do that a couple of times just for extra support (confidence for me!)?

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    I usually just use whatever needle is in the machine (usually the orange Singer I use for thin fabric), but a bigger one would work better. I do an X-box, then move the webbing up half an inch or so and put another X-box overlapping the first one.
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    I've done box with an X as Jeff said. I have also done 5 rows of zig zag stitches. I went forward and reverse a couple times going from small to large zig zags. IMO both work the same, at least so far.
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