Page 1 of 4 123 ... LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 31
  1. #1

    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Location
    Ohio
    Hammock
    Dutchware 11ft
    Tarp
    MacCat Deluxe Sil
    Insulation
    HG Phoenix 20
    Suspension
    Dutch Cinch Bugs
    Posts
    996

    dollars per ounce?

    I was sitting here looking at my gear list and started looking for ways to cut weight. I found a couple of easy ones, but I was wondering if it was worth it. If you switch suspensions, but it cost $30, how much weight savings makes it worthwhile? Lighter water bladder, lighter cookset, lighter water treatment etc.... Equals 40 dollars here, 65 dollars there, etc.... Pretty soon it adds up. I know this varies and everyone probably has a different idea, but I wonder where you all draw the line. Is it worth $50 to save 2oz? 6oz? 1lb?

    I'm sure many would pay $300 to save 4lbs, but what about to save 1/2 lb? There don't seem to be any right answers, I was just interested as to whether or not anyone else has thought about this.

  2. #2
    Senior Member kayak karl's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Location
    South, South Jersey
    Posts
    3,323
    Images
    7
    thought about it i have threads on other sites about it. LOL

    bottom line for me, when i need to replace something i check weights carefully, but it is not my only criteria. i have backpacked over 1800 miles with what i got. i can do it again.
    "Tenting is equivalent to a bum crawling into a cardboard box, hammocking is an art" KK

  3. #3
    Senior Member DemostiX's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2011
    Location
    Like Lewis & Clark: Wintrin' o/t Columbia again: PDX
    Hammock
    Clark w 2QZQ mod,Tropical, NX;Nano
    Tarp
    Clark micro
    Insulation
    Major down
    Suspension
    7/64 SK75 +strap
    Posts
    2,318
    Images
    13

    Search and you will find

    I am sure I have seen charts with precisely this calculation for folks going to to UL. So, this post is not as good as doing the research for you or picking he only one I know. But, it is actually better than that, because I know for sure you can search and find this at least once, and maybe charts by many, showing item by item replacements, weight saved, cost, and cost / ounce

    For the most hammock-friendly results, I might include Sgt Rock among the search terms.

    When you find some result you like, please consider an additional calculation of cost per 100 uses or cost by # of uses before failure. Gravity was discovered more than a little while before UL. Mountain climbers and arborists don't carry so much heavy rope to prove they are strong men and women of great endurance. Why, there's even good reason for cotton duck.
    Last edited by DemostiX; 08-10-2012 at 22:52.

  4. #4
    gunner76's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    Beaufort, NC
    Hammock
    Blackbird 1.7 double
    Tarp
    HG Cuben
    Insulation
    UGQs ZEPPELIN
    Suspension
    Dutch Clips
    Posts
    8,887
    Images
    39
    Pounds are easy, ounces are hard, grams are a nightmare. I want to carry as little as possible when hiking but I want to have enough stuff to be comfortable when I stop and set up camp.

    Right now my BB hammock is the second heaviest item I am carrying (my pack is slightly heavier and my 3L Camelback with water the heviest item if I take it). I have ligher weight hammocks but I take my BB because I find it very confortable to sleep in and getting a good nights sleep is important. I learned early on in the Marines that if I got a good nights sleep I could put up with anything.
    3rd Annual Frosty But Hang Feb 2017 ............ 4th Annual 2017 Fat Butt Hang TBA ..................... 4th Annual 2017 Hunger Halloween Han TBA

    I am 18 with 45 years of experience ! ................ Hike the Neusiok Trail & check out the NTforum !

  5. #5
    MAD777's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2009
    Location
    South Florida
    Hammock
    DIY, WBBB & Switchback
    Tarp
    HG cuben,OES Spinn
    Insulation
    DIY down 3/4 UQ/TQ
    Suspension
    Dynaglide & Dutch
    Posts
    10,049
    Images
    39
    When I first became "enLIGHTened" to reduce pack weight, it started with the biggest bang for the buck which was about $10/oz. saved. Now that I've been at it awhile, the law of dimenishimg returns is setting in. It's costing me $30/oz. saved nowadays.
    Last edited by MAD777; 08-10-2012 at 23:45.
    Mike
    "Life is a Project!"

  6. #6
    Acer's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2011
    Location
    Southern Indiana Wooded Hills
    Hammock
    WBRR, 35 inch dogbones
    Tarp
    WL Tadpole/OMWintr
    Insulation
    UGQ/HG/AHE
    Suspension
    Whoops/Dutch Bling
    Posts
    3,941
    Images
    19
    I would say Ultra Light comes into play with age...we love to go lighter,,but we also seek more comfort as we get older...so there lies the question. It takes alot of coin to go lighter and still stay in the comfort range you seek...and at some point in time..the comfort will win out and keep you from totally going UL. For me,,I can hump a 8-9 lb pack plus the water, food and fuel,,however,,I would rather hump 15 and enjoy the moments more. (plus the food, fuel, water.) Now when you figure how many miles your going to hike,,it becomes another game of the mind as to what you want to carry. But,,as you buy gear,,spend the money on the what you consider to be the best and lightest,,and slowly you will lighten your load to a point that you are happy with. As I have always said to most,,hike your hike,,and carry what your comfortable with. Enjoy!
    2nd CAG, CAP 2-1-5 5th Marines, 1st Mar. Div.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combined_Action_Program

  7. #7
    Only "You" can answer this question, no one can do it for you.

    For "Me" yes it was and still is worth it!

    If I didn't cut the weight I would have never been able to hike the trails and miles that I have. Reason, my knees are shot, still have bulging disks in my back, hips are terrible, I have arthritis....plus more.....

    My first trip out my pack weighted about 50#'s, and it was the "Worst" time ever. I never really enjoyed the hike, the views, or time in camp as my body was just sooooo beat up.

    Now (a few years later and who knows how much $ ) my 3 season pack weight with 4/5 days of food is under 20#'s (usually around 18) and even though my knee's still take a beating, and my back is sore at the end of the day I "Truly" enjoy hiking now and I have been able to do much more because my pack weight has allowed me too!

    But as I said, this was "My" reason, whats yours?
    "yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, but today is a gift---thats why its called a present" - Master Oogway
    It's always best if your an early riser!

  8. #8
    Senior Member Jcavenagh's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2010
    Location
    Chicago Area
    Hammock
    WBBB DL 1.1 & 1.7
    Tarp
    HG Cuben
    Insulation
    HG Incbtr-AH Potmc
    Suspension
    WB Adj Web
    Posts
    1,194
    Images
    22
    One way I look at it...What is an hour of my time worth? I know what I bill when I am working with clients and I think all my time is worth at least that much. So, do I want to enjoy the hours I spend outside? Of course! So then I think how much more enjoyment will I get with x amount less weight AND how much will I enjoy playing with whatever new pice of gear I am contemplating. I take a longer term approach with this because I expect to get at least a few years out of any particular item.

    Another way to look at it...I often compare the money I will spend on a piece of gear to the price of a fine dinner and/or a movie, concert, play, whatever. When you start comparing the costs of other diversions, the cost of gear, even expensive stuff like down jackets and cuben gear, starts to look pretty reasonable.

    That said, I am not at the UL stage... yet. I am reading UL Backpackin' Tips by Mike Clelland right now and maybe I'll get there. Probably not, but I'll keep trying to get the overall pack weight down.

    [Just read Cranky's answer and I, too, have knee, back and hip issues. Lighter let's me get out more.]
    Last edited by Jcavenagh; 08-10-2012 at 21:26.
    The road to success is always under construction.
    http://hikingillinois.blogspot.com/

  9. #9

    Join Date
    Oct 2010
    Location
    Raleigh, NC
    Posts
    1,901
    Images
    29
    I think about this a lot too. There are a lot of other factors of course.

    My old Kelty Flight backpack is 4.5 lbs. I'd love to trade it out for a ULA pack but they are all smaller and I simply can't give up the room till I first trade out using a $20 sleeping bag with some quilts.

    I'm pretty sure I could save some weight by tossing all the dry bags we take and replacing them with cuben bags but that would be expensive. More weight could probably be saved by doing the same thing for the compactor trash bags. Those things add up QUICK. A couple cuben pack covers and a trash bag (to be reused of course) would save even more weight.

    A lot of the choices are simply what sounds cool to buy at the moment.
    As long I'm lighter each time and progressing in that directions, I'm happy.

  10. #10
    Senior Member SnrMoment's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Location
    Falling Rock, MT
    Hammock
    DIY
    Tarp
    Cuben
    Insulation
    Goose bumps
    Suspension
    Bat Feet
    Posts
    1,382
    The choice for me was lighten up or don't go. I hike in the mountains. A five or six mile hike goes from 6k ft to over 10k on some treks. Three miles and 3k feet up is not uncommon. Not getting any younger at 67, but still try to keep a 3 mph pace over all. Had to do a major overhaul on my gear set up, but shed just under 9# this year with pack, TQ, UQ and some other light accessories. I'm hiding from the cost per ounce.
    Love is blind. Marriage is an eye opener.

Similar Threads

  1. 8 ounce hammock
    By nuttysquirrel in forum [SOLD/WITHDRAWN] Items no longer available
    Replies: 5
    Last Post: 03-18-2014, 23:40
  2. Pod from GI gear less then 69 dollars
    By riverjoe in forum Do-It-Yourself (DIY)
    Replies: 16
    Last Post: 11-27-2013, 06:42
  3. Whats a good tarp for around 30 to 40 dollars?
    By Tillamook in forum Weather Protection
    Replies: 20
    Last Post: 12-30-2011, 15:49
  4. 200 ounce bladder
    By danrum in forum Archived WTB
    Replies: 4
    Last Post: 02-14-2011, 01:58
  5. SOLD: Hennesey Explorer Deluxe, 90 dollars + s/h paypal only.
    By whitefoot_hp in forum [SOLD/WITHDRAWN] Items no longer available
    Replies: 7
    Last Post: 10-08-2008, 11:14

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •