HH with rings

[jw261]

I am new to the forum and recently switched from an ENO DN with whoopies to a HH Expedition. I have been looking around quite a bit about suspension and keep seeing people advising against using the stock rope through a pair of rings. I know I saw trekkingnut's video and read the entire thread about rings and went with the video's recommendation. I see alot of posts saying that by running the webbing through the rings without a knot, people were experiencing slippage. I don't see alot of firsthand knowledge or incidents where people have seen the weakness or damage to the stock ropes going directly through the rings. I have been doing it in this method and haven't noticed any damage yet. Has anyone had personal experience or been put on the ground using this method?

[dragon360]

I've used this method for a bit - I found that a back up was best as security. I've never been grounded but have had some slippage. Also, continous usage does show wear on the rope from pinching it over and over. No true damage but I have switched to whoopies for some and found greater ease of use and weight savings.

[jw261]

Yeah, I always use a slippery half hitch behind the rings as added protection. I guess if I start to see wear I can replace the stock rope with the rings and put the webbing through the rings like most folks do.

[dac01]

As long as I put a half hitch as a followup, I have not had any issues. I'll keep an eye on rope wear.

[jw261]

Man it's good to know there are a few people using the same method I am. I guess we might all hit the ground at the same time, but at least I'm not alone.

[Demeter]

I may be one of the few people here that tried whoopies and switched back to the stock lines with rings. Have a little slippage but find that wrapping line around rings with a couple half-hitches work well.

Had a hard time tightening and loosening the whoopies....

[WetRivrRat]

You would be correct that it shortens the maximum possible distance between tress. However, it isn't a permanent setup, so if I found that I needed more length then I could either remove the rings altogether or just move the rings up the line towards the trees. The rings are only there for convenience, and if convenience suffers due to available trees then I just switch to whatever is most convenient at the time.

[erikayak]

I am new to the forum and recently switched from an ENO DN with whoopies to a HH Expedition. I have been looking around quite a bit about suspension and keep seeing people advising against using the stock rope through a pair of rings. I know I saw trekkingnut's video and read the entire thread about rings and went with the video's recommendation. I see alot of posts saying that by running the webbing through the rings without a knot, people were experiencing slippage. I don't see alot of firsthand knowledge or incidents where people have seen the weakness or damage to the stock ropes going directly through the rings. I have been doing it in this method and haven't noticed any damage yet. Has anyone had personal experience or been put on the ground using this method?

I was put to ground yesterday due to stock rope fail. The outer layer of the rope broke but the core stayed intact. I'm looping the leftover rope and keeping the rings.

[jw261]

Erikayak

How were you connecting the rope to the rings and what size were the rings?

[erikayak]

Erikayak

How were you connecting the rope to the rings and what size were the rings?

My suspension looked like THIS.

As WetRivrRat suggested maybe I put too much friction in a single point.