Page 1 of 4 123 ... LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 40

Hybrid View

Previous Post Previous Post   Next Post Next Post
  1. #1
    Member Elessar's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2011
    Location
    Crab Orchard, KY
    Hammock
    shopping for new gear
    Insulation
    Tequila
    Suspension
    Prayer
    Posts
    61

    amsteel vs dyeema

    I'm still reading, studying, designing, and planning. I've bought a budget hammock to begin my research and experimentation, but I continue to run up against new things like the difference between Amsteel & Dyeema.

    Can someone here please lay out the difference between these two lines?

  2. #2
    Senior Member Hiknhanger's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2010
    Location
    Greensboro, NC
    Hammock
    DIY
    Tarp
    Chinook 12 x 9.6
    Insulation
    Mummy bag
    Suspension
    UCR's
    Posts
    765
    Images
    1
    Amsteel is a product name for cordage made with dyneema fibers, so Amsteel is dyneema. It can be quite confusing!

  3. #3
    Senior Member WV's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Location
    southeast WV
    Hammock
    DIY
    Posts
    4,821
    Images
    208
    Dyneema is a product name for cordage made with high molecular weight polyethylene fibers. So is Amsteel. It can be quite confusing! The coatings on the manufactured ropes may be slightly different, but they are essentially the same stuff.

  4. #4
    Member Elessar's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2011
    Location
    Crab Orchard, KY
    Hammock
    shopping for new gear
    Insulation
    Tequila
    Suspension
    Prayer
    Posts
    61
    Ooooo, I'm gettin' educated now. Thanx y'all.

  5. #5
    New Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2016
    Location
    Cluj-Napoca, Romania
    Posts
    27
    Quote Originally Posted by WV View Post
    Dyneema is a product name for cordage made with high molecular weight polyethylene fibers. So is Amsteel. It can be quite confusing! The coatings on the manufactured ropes may be slightly different, but they are essentially the same stuff.
    I also know they're equivalent. Any hmw polyethilene based product should be fine.

  6. #6
    Senior Member Cruiser51's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2012
    Location
    Bowmanville, On
    Hammock
    DIY
    Tarp
    DIY Bridge
    Insulation
    DIY Down
    Posts
    478
    Quote Originally Posted by Marius Titulescu View Post
    I also know they're equivalent. Any hmw polyethilene based product should be fine.
    Not to be too picky, but the use of the word "Equivalent" is really questionable in this case. There are several (as I understand it) versions of UHMWP fiber that can be used to start with, plus the difference in coatings used, plus the difference in how those fibers are handled during production, plus how they woven.

    So manufacture and starting fiber can contribute differences to the final products, so although a rope uses UHMWP it doesn't follow that ropes from different manufacturers will be "equivalent". They may be similar, but like most things in life ... there is usually a range of quality in any manufactured goods and rope IMO is no different.

  7. #7
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2015
    Location
    MN
    Posts
    2,460
    Quote Originally Posted by WV View Post
    Dyneema is a product name for cordage made with high molecular weight polyethylene fibers. So is Amsteel. It can be quite confusing! The coatings on the manufactured ropes may be slightly different, but they are essentially the same stuff.
    Quote Originally Posted by Marius Titulescu View Post
    I also know they're equivalent. Any hmw polyethilene based product should be fine.
    See post # 5 in this thread. Tha facts are clearly stated there.
    Last edited by TominMN; 12-08-2022 at 10:54.

  8. #8
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Location
    USA
    Posts
    1,604
    Amsteel is a brand name for Samson cord made of high-modulus polyethylene (HMPE)--also known as Ultra-high-molecular-weight polyethylene (UHMWPE)

    Dyneema is the trade name for UHMWPE made by the DSM company in the Netherlands.

    Spectra is the trade name of UHMWPE made by Allied Signal/Honeywell International Inc in the USA. Dyneema was initially licensed to Allied Signal by DSM to be manufactured in the USA and the name was changed.

    Samson, New England Ropes, Yale Cordage, and other rope companies use Dyneema or Spectra fiber and then make their ropes with their own brand name (such as Amsteel, Dynaglide, Endura-12, Maxibraid, Ultrex, etc) Many of them are available in different diameters depending on the required specs. Some minor differences in coatings.
    Last edited by BER; 08-21-2012 at 14:19.

  9. #9
    Senior Member Hiknhanger's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2010
    Location
    Greensboro, NC
    Hammock
    DIY
    Tarp
    Chinook 12 x 9.6
    Insulation
    Mummy bag
    Suspension
    UCR's
    Posts
    765
    Images
    1
    Quote Originally Posted by BER View Post
    Amsteel is a brand name for Samson Ropes cord made of high-modulus polyethylene (HMPE)--also known as Ultra-high-molecular-weight polyethylene (UHMWPE)

    Dyneema is the trade name for UHMWPE made by the DSM company in the Netherlands.

    Spectra is the trade name of UHMWPE made by Honeywell International Inc in the USA
    What he said. I retract my earlier statement!

  10. #10
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Location
    USA
    Posts
    1,604
    Quote Originally Posted by Hiknhanger View Post
    What he said. I retract my earlier statement!
    No, you were entirely correct. Samson uses Dyneema SK-75 fiber to make their Amsteel.

  • + New Posts
  • Page 1 of 4 123 ... LastLast

    Similar Threads

    1. [Color=green]Amsteel Whoopies to Amsteel Cont. Loop Suspension[/color]
      By snidetripod in forum Do-It-Yourself (DIY)
      Replies: 2
      Last Post: 07-19-2014, 12:08
    2. Amsteel
      By gothmog in forum Do-It-Yourself (DIY)
      Replies: 9
      Last Post: 02-18-2013, 12:40
    3. Source for dyeema?
      By docmusolf in forum Fabrics
      Replies: 4
      Last Post: 08-21-2012, 14:14
    4. AmSteel not known in the UK
      By britcoms in forum Suspension Systems, Ridgelines, & Bug Nets
      Replies: 18
      Last Post: 12-02-2010, 13:11
    5. what do i have? amsteel or amsteel blue?
      By storm1 in forum Whoopie Slings
      Replies: 12
      Last Post: 05-05-2010, 21:05

    Bookmarks

    Posting Permissions

    • You may not post new threads
    • You may not post replies
    • You may not post attachments
    • You may not edit your posts
    •