Reposting from a current HHSS thread
Poll summary after nearly 1 year:
I had sort of forgot about this poll, but want to review results now that almost a year has gone by. It occurs to me that having a multiple choice poll maybe complicates matters, because you have to go and break it down for people who vote in more than one category.
But I see 48 people have voted in about 1 year. And I am surprised by the way the votes go, both pro and con.
I see that 5(10%) folks did not like it at all and were not warm even at 40-50 and say it is not a good system. 5 also voted it was no go due to condensation problems, but 3 of those 5 were in the previous group that said it is not a good system, so how due I count that? So either 10 folks (20%) say the system is a no go period, or if I adjust for the 3 that voted no go in both categories, then 7 out of 48(14.5%) say it is a no go for whatever reason, either not warm, or too much condensation or both. Frankly, that is a surprise, I would have thought more like 25 or even more % who simply had no use for it at all.
Another surprise to me is how many folks were able to take the basic system to lower temps than me. Considering that the system only weighs about 20 oz ( depending on size), is full length, and includes an UQP( the UC), plus fairly low cost and packs down smaller than some alternatives, I always felt if I got a solid 40F out of this system I really could not complain. Particularly as I felt I could get away with a smaller tarp than with some other systems. And I mostly felt I was OK to about 30F, even with a lot of wind, so I was good.
But if I combine ( trying to account for those repeats in say 40 and 30 etc) the folks who say they are good to 40F(11) with 30(8) with 20F(7) and even amazingly below 20F(4), that is 30( 62%!) who are fine at or well below 40 with little condensation. In fact, 40% are good to 30 or below! I think that is most impressive.
Other surprises: though 62% were at least OK to 40 or well below, only 40% said:"I find it to be more than adequate for the money and weight/volume. I like it!"! Again, seems to me that if you get to 40 or below with a 20 oz highly wind and water resistant system you might think it is more than adequate for the money/weight/volume, but maybe that's just me.
Another big surprise? That only 27% said: "The UC provides significant extra wind/rain/snow/fog protection, which is a big plus!" To me, that wind and sideways rain/snow protection is the biggest selling point of this system. I guess it's that way for me because during the 1st week I used this system ( also 1st time in any hammock) I escaped what every one thought was going to be a freeze your butt off night for me, with the wind howling in off the lake just a few feet away. Blowing hard right in the foot end of that small, diamond, flapping(deafening) tarp. The wind was literally bouncing me around. Once I got past the noise and fell asleep, I had one of the most comfortable, and totally warm, sleeps of my life. It probably was not all that cold, maybe only about 40F, I don't know. 22F was the low for that week. But I think even with my much warmer UQs the wind would have made me cold that night. Wind can easily knock 20F or a lot more off of a quilt's rating. With the only 2 trees available to me that night, there was no way to protect my backside from the wind with that little HH tarp.
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Originally Posted by dirtwheels
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