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    Dutch Buckle vs. Cinch Buckle??

    Two questions about these two items.
    1) Does anyone know what the weight difference between Dutch Buckles and the AHE Ulta Lite Cinch Buckles?

    2) Which one do people find easier to adjust once the hammock is up and hanging?

    Thanks for sharing your thoughts and information.

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    I forgot to apologize if this is a redundant question. My hasty search didn't reveal the answers to me. Thanks again.

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    It's hard to answer the second part of your question because the two buckles really serve different purposes.

    The AHE buckles are designed for a primarily webbing suspension, and provide an adjustment point for the webbing itself and the shape allows the buckles to be connected to the hammock with a spliced continuous loop.

    The Dutch Buckles are designed for use with a whoopie sling suspension, and provide a connection alternative to tying a Marlinspike Hitch in the webbing (upon which the whoopie would hang). Instead of a MSH, the whoopie sling hangs on and is secured to the buckle.

    If you like a mainly webbing suspension, the AHE buckles are the best fit. Or if you like a whoopie suspension without a MSH, the Dutch buckles are the best fit.

    It's nice to have lots of options, eh?
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    Thanks Angrysparrow. The reason I am asking is that I currently using whoopies and Dutch buckles and was considering taking the Whoopie out and making up for the lost length with longer webbing.

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    In that case I think the AHE buckles would be a little more convenient. They would provide an adjustment point closer to the end of the hammock and probably act as a water break.

    I don't know the weight difference.
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    Hey AngrySparrow what do you think is better for replacing my toggle a MSH and a climbing biner or a dutch buckle? Its about the same cost

    Jeremy

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    Probably just boils down to personal preference. The Dutch buckle would be lighter than a climbing biner though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by angrysparrow View Post
    Probably just boils down to personal preference. The Dutch buckle would be lighter than a climbing biner though.
    True, if I do go biner idk if I should get a twist lok(more reliable and better built, but more pricey) or a simple gate.\

    Jeremy

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    Quote Originally Posted by OutdoorJunkie1992 View Post
    True, if I do go biner idk if I should get a twist lok(more reliable and better built, but more pricey) or a simple gate.\

    Jeremy
    Unless you have an actual climbing use, a gated biner is more than fine for a hammock suspension.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OutdoorJunkie1992 View Post
    True, if I do go biner idk if I should get a twist lok(more reliable and better built, but more pricey) or a simple gate.\

    Jeremy
    EDIT: AS beat me to it...

    A simple gate will do you just fine.

    As long as you're not trying to do headstands in your hammock (*cough* *Shug* *cough*), you shouldn't be moving it around enough to cause the webbing to lie on the gate. It should remain a linear pull along the major axis of the 'biner. So, a simple spring gate should be fine.

    As always, though, YMMV...
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