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    Thanks for all the info, guys.

    Just did some research on tagging - I have looked at a youtube video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5gHz8h4kTA and haven't the foggiest idea how to get it to hold a seam together. Is this the same tagging as you mentioned DemoStix?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DemostiX View Post
    Just checked with Sailrite. Per Title, their sailmaker said none of the tapes they sell for seams, strengthening, aligning, or further water-resisting them, will adhere to silnylon.
    Yeah, I know. Thats why you have to have expensive silicone based tapes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lost_Biker View Post
    Thanks for all the info, guys.

    Just did some research on tagging - I have looked at a youtube video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5gHz8h4kTA and haven't the foggiest idea how to get it to hold a seam together. Is this the same tagging as you mentioned DemoStix?
    That's not a basting gun. The bating barbs are only about 1/8" at longest and hold fabrics really well. The real basting guns use very small needles and don't leave big holes. It adds a step of removing the barbs after sewing and on a tarp you would have more holes to seal. The barbs are really quick to take out with a skim blade and are nice to use on slippery fabrics because you don't have to stop sewing to remove them like pins.

    I personally wouldn't use one on a tarp, but I use them on plenty of other items.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Redoleary View Post
    Yeah, I know. Thats why you have to have expensive silicone based tapes.
    What specific product do you have in mind? Is it the 3m product that is used by the fabricators of cuben articles? The 3M product Sailrite sells @ $49 per 60 yard 1" roll, "Super Seam Seal" meets the criterion of "expensive" for a home builder. But it adds <$3 for a tarp ridge line for a commercial maker. That's less than the expense or what must be charged for seam sealing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lost_Biker View Post
    Thanks for all the info, guys.

    Just did some research on tagging - I have looked at a youtube video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5gHz8h4kTA and haven't the foggiest idea how to get it to hold a seam together. Is this the same tagging as you mentioned DemoStix?
    I 'spect Pag is referring to one of these:

    http://www.vaaardvark.com/index.cfm?...1&id=11083,356

    or

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/AVERY-DENNIS...-/260929482894

    of which, at one retail outlet:

    Quilters have been using Avery Basting Guns for many years now and benefit from this time-saving method of basting their quilts. The newest addition to the Avery Dennison range is the MicroStitchTM tool. This patented system features a lightweight, hand-held tool thatís reliable and easy to use, with a durable metal-feed mechanism. Its micro fasteners are better than thread, metal staples or pins, and hold fast and tight.

    With the marketís smallest needle and smallest tacks, MicroStitch is also gentle on fabric. The tiny, versatile fasteners apply easily, can be sewn over and removed with a quick pull or snip. For quilters, it makes the basting process faster and easier, with tacks that are 35% smaller than other options.

    (A tip to getting more hits in search for things relating to retail fabrics and joining them is to use "quilt" in the search, reflecting the popularity of that creative outlet that has not much in common TQs and UQs discussed here. Sewing shops? Nah: Quilting shops.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by DemostiX View Post
    What specific product do you have in mind? Is it the 3m product that is used by the fabricators of cuben articles? The 3M product Sailrite sells @ $49 per 60 yard 1" roll, "Super Seam Seal" meets the criterion of "expensive" for a home builder. But it adds <$3 for a tarp ridge line for a commercial maker. That's less than the expense or what must be charged for seam sealing.
    Bainbridge International sells the silicone seam tape. P/N J213 and J125 for 1/2" & 3/4" respectively. I don't have my price list in front of me but it seams like it was around $16. In the grand scheme not a lot but more than I want to spend for the 10' of tape I would use per tarp. I didn't know we were discussing prices of stuff as it related to full production commercial tarps, I was thinking about these items and how they relate to a guy making one or two tarps at home.
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    Ah -basting gun. Got it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6_oHLxMGRs

    Thanks for the basting information, everyone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Redoleary View Post
    Bainbridge International sells the silicone seam tape. P/N J213 and J125 for 1/2" & 3/4" respectively. I don't have my price list in front of me but it seams like it was around $16. In the grand scheme not a lot but more than I want to spend for the 10' of tape I would use per tarp. I didn't know we were discussing prices of stuff as it related to full production commercial tarps, I was thinking about these items and how they relate to a guy making one or two tarps at home.
    Thanks for the much-less-expensive and new-to-me source for seam tape.

    The rest is addressed completely in my post @ 1:59:

    The 3M product Sailrite sells @ $49 per 60 yard 1" roll, "Super Seam Seal" meets the criterion of "expensive" for a home builder. But it adds <$3 for a tarp ridge line for a commercial maker. That's less than the expense or what must be charged for seam sealing.

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    Can someone direct me to the post rg using the diluted silicone to glue baffles on Under/top quilts prior to sewing. I know I've seen this but cannot locate it.

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