Free hosiery good guggly muggly that sounds interesting. I tried a pair of those but I could not make them work right. Thanks again for the help. I started on the set Shug sent along in his reply. I'm crafting them out of ripstop from my local JoAnne. I'll post pics when finished. Thanks Ramblinrev for the advice on the thread injector. I still have a long way to go on my stitching. Did I really just say that? Talk to you guys soon.