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    Needed:tips for pitching winter tarp

    So...I just got an OES 4 season tarp. I put it up and realized I could use some advice about how to get the doors to close snug. I tried running the guylines from the stake on the opposite side through the ring on the cornerof the "door" then back to the stake. That was ok.
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    You could use shock cord for guy lines. Then it would close snug but you could also pass though easy enough.

    Run them crisscross to each other. The stake for each corner would be driven past the centerline opposite. The doors would lap.
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    Hilarious, was just coming to this subforum to ask almost the same question:

    I've exclusively used "doored" tarps (WB Superfly, my first HG WinterPalace, and now my longer HG WinterKingdom -my poetic license on the name-) and have very hit and miss results with getting doors completely closed. I've gone with shockcord systems, but that doesn't seem to help 100%.

    I think the problems have been in my setup geometry. I regularly find when trying to get the doors to shut tight, it would require them to be anchored at a fictional point in space about 6 inches underground. I've tried making the seam "away" from the center of the tarp (toward the trees on either end) and also bringing them in toward the center of the tarp (I have better luck with this "style").

    I've been thinking about making some true "guide lines" out of 10lb test braided fishing line with knots tied at select key points to help me out with the geometry. They'd weigh in at well less than 1 gram I'm sure....

    I'll be following this thread closely and would love if someone would be willing to post pics of their battened-down tarp.
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    Quote Originally Posted by body942 View Post
    Hilarious, was just coming to this subforum to ask almost the same question:

    I've exclusively used "doored" tarps (WB Superfly, my first HG WinterPalace, and now my longer HG WinterKingdom -my poetic license on the name-) and have very hit and miss results with getting doors completely closed. I've gone with shockcord systems, but that doesn't seem to help 100%.

    I think the problems have been in my setup geometry. I regularly find when trying to get the doors to shut tight, it would require them to be anchored at a fictional point in space about 6 inches underground. I've tried making the seam "away" from the center of the tarp (toward the trees on either end) and also bringing them in toward the center of the tarp (I have better luck with this "style").

    I've been thinking about making some true "guide lines" out of 10lb test braided fishing line with knots tied at select key points to help me out with the geometry. They'd weigh in at well less than 1 gram I'm sure....

    I'll be following this thread closely and would love if someone would be willing to post pics of their battened-down tarp.
    This is what I do with a 12x12, not a true winter tarp, and can get the doors closed pretty tight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MDSH View Post
    You could use shock cord for guy lines. Then it would close snug but you could also pass though easy enough.

    Run them crisscross to each other. The stake for each corner would be driven past the centerline opposite. The doors would lap.
    Great tip, shock cords!
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    Ha, it came with shock cord on the door rings...
    I wonder why they cat cut the doors, if the point of having doors is to shut them? Oh well, the tarp is great and I managed to get them to lap over pretty well, now that I realize they will never really line right up with the cat cut. I don't guess I did as bad as I thought!
    As always, I appreciate the help from everyone and I can't wait for the field test!

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    Is it possible to close the doors first ,say 90% of the way and then stake the corners out??
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    Quote Originally Posted by mbiraman View Post
    Is it possible to close the doors first ,say 90% of the way and then stake the corners out??
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    bill
    This is the nearest I've ever been to closed doors with an OES 4 season tarp - maybe a three or four inches opened at the top of the doors. The geometry is such though that this compromises the internal space in the tarp (tighter A-frame needed).


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    Quote Originally Posted by Michelle the Camper View Post
    Ha, it came with shock cord on the door rings...
    I wonder why they cat cut the doors, if the point of having doors is to shut them? Oh well, the tarp is great and I managed to get them to lap over pretty well, now that I realize they will never really line right up with the cat cut. I don't guess I did as bad as I thought!
    As always, I appreciate the help from everyone and I can't wait for the field test!
    I think they cat cut the doors so it is a big catenary cut tarp when open all the way. The cut pattern reduces edge ripple in the wind so it is quieter. A big flat tarp will fold the door better but is harder to keep from flapping in the breeze. That is the tradeoff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michelle the Camper View Post
    So...I just got an OES 4 season tarp. I put it up and realized I could use some advice about how to get the doors to close snug. I tried running the guylines from the stake on the opposite side through the ring on the cornerof the "door" then back to the stake. That was ok.
    Looking for better alternatives...go!
    If you got the standard OES 4 season tarp, then the ends have a cat cut on them so the "doors" won't completely seal closed. This is shown in the picture gallery on the product page.

    http://www.outdoorequipmentsupplier....ason_tarps.php

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