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    I went with the 1.1 double layer, mostly for versatility. I'm living nomadically while traveling this winter and use a Warbonnet torso UQ with two layers of insulation quilt looped in. Rather than carry the bulky and fragile extra insulation layers to be optionally sewn in with quilt loops, with the double layer I have the option of adding a pad if I run into some cold nights. Carrying the pad around also gives me the option to go to ground if need be.

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    Double layer, but I sent him my own fabric. 1.1 digital camo with an inner lining of sportswear nylon. I went double layer for the versatility, but I don't expect to use the pad pocket on a regular basis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by macfly View Post
    I went with the 1.1 double layer, mostly for versatility. I'm living nomadically while traveling this winter and use a Warbonnet torso UQ with two layers of insulation quilt looped in. Rather than carry the bulky and fragile extra insulation layers to be optionally sewn in with quilt loops, with the double layer I have the option of adding a pad if I run into some cold nights. Carrying the pad around also gives me the option to go to ground if need be.
    Interesting observations. I recently aqquired a Warbonnet torso UQ. Is the extra layer worth it's weight to hold the extremity pad in postition? In other words, is it more comfortable than just placing it inside the hammock. I really try not to be a gram weenie but sometimes I just can't help myself. The lightest insulation you can carry is an evazote pad, I don't get backsweats from them, I just don't like the way they can squirm around. That extra layer of 1.1 might be well worth it's weight for this reason.

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    I have the 1.7 double so I can put an big Agnes insulated pad under me. Also I am a big guy 220 lb..
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    Good responses, thanks. I'm 200-205# and kinda like the idea of a double layer with 1.7 and 1.1. I think that should hold me. A 1.7/1.1 combo is not mentioned but HC4U had one done like that so it's possible. I also have plenty of material so I'll have to get up with Warbonnet Guy and see what can be done.
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    I slept in a 1.1 oz at ~200 lbs and it held fine. My DIY stretched in the shoulders enough to make it uncomfortable, but not all 1.1 oz is like that. HH BULA is 1.1 oz and doesn't stretch like that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Take-a-knee View Post
    Interesting observations. I recently aqquired a Warbonnet torso UQ. Is the extra layer worth it's weight to hold the extremity pad in postition? In other words, is it more comfortable than just placing it inside the hammock. I really try not to be a gram weenie but sometimes I just can't help myself. The lightest insulation you can carry is an evazote pad, I don't get backsweats from them, I just don't like the way they can squirm around. That extra layer of 1.1 might be well worth it's weight for this reason.
    Take-a-knee, to be perfectly honest I've not had to use the pad thus far...haven't even taken it for a trial run. I use a Wal-Mart blue egg crate CCF so can't comment on the Evazote. I'll give it a go tonight and get back to you...

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    the dl is more for a full length pad. if it's just a leg pad it's not a problem inside the hammock with you, it's actually better because you can position it easier. pads are generally only a problem under the hips and back, under the legs they're fine.


    the double layer gives a flatter lay though than a single will. dl1.1 should provide a pretty flat lay for folks up to 200, but could support plenty more, but there would be more stretch going on. above 200, folks would probably benefit from the dl 1.7 with regard to flatness. for folks who sleep on their back mostly and aren't as concerned with flatness, the singles could be a good choice especially if looking to save weight. the single 1.1 would hold someone up to 180 pretty easily, above that i'd go with the single 1.7. basically the double's will be more durable in the long term and provide a flatter lay and have the pad pocket ability along with their weight gain. they all pretty much fit in the same stuff sac though so bulk isn't as much of an issue unless you're using a compression sac or something.


    Quote Originally Posted by Take-a-knee View Post
    Interesting observations. I recently aqquired a Warbonnet torso UQ. Is the extra layer worth it's weight to hold the extremity pad in postition? In other words, is it more comfortable than just placing it inside the hammock. I really try not to be a gram weenie but sometimes I just can't help myself. The lightest insulation you can carry is an evazote pad, I don't get backsweats from them, I just don't like the way they can squirm around. That extra layer of 1.1 might be well worth it's weight for this reason.
    Last edited by warbonnetguy; 12-30-2008 at 12:44.

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