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    Quote Originally Posted by OneThing View Post
    I'm certain it was the cheap dowel. It almost looks like compress plywood. I had the hole size right on, and right in the middle. It looked so cool & ready to go until I got in. That baby snapped in two so fast that part of it is in Hawaii. Here's what's left of it.

    Yes, that looks like an extruded wood composite.

    Don't give up, OneThing. IM's sliding toggle is a great innovation and will probably catch on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MDSH View Post
    Yes, that looks like an extruded wood composite.

    Don't give up, OneThing. IM's sliging toggel is a great innovation and will probably catch on.

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    I was surprised that it snapped. I've used a MSH before and because all the weight was on the knot, I thought this would be the same deal. However, now that I got some sense knocked into me, and with the helpful advice of the group here, I see the problem clearly. As noted earlier, I don't know my wood. This setup looks like the MSH in the end, but that's about all it has in common.

    Looking forward to seeing some pictures of what others are using and how they've set it up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OneThing View Post
    I was surprised that it snapped. I've used a MSH before and because all the weight was on the knot, I thought this would be the same deal. However, now that I got some sense knocked into me, and with the helpful advice of the group here, I see the problem clearly. As noted earlier, I don't know my wood. This setup looks like the MSH in the end, but that's about all it has in common.

    Looking forward to seeing some pictures of what others are using and how they've set it up.
    It solved my single line problem beautifully: http://www.hammockforums.net/forum/s...ad.php?t=67994
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    He said to them, “But now let the one who has a moneybag take it, and likewise a knapsack. And let the one who has no sword sell his cloak and buy one." (Luke 22:36 ESV)

    While people are saying, “There is peace and security,” then sudden destruction will come upon them as labor pains come upon a pregnant woman, and they will not escape. (1 Thessalonians 5:3 ESV)

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    T-toggle

    I wanted to address the issue of the small radius of the hammock loop over the single suspension line passing through the toggle by putting a collar of 3/8" o.d. PEX perpendicular to the toggle. This is set into a 3/8" hole drilled halfway through the 5/8" diameter toggle, so the toggle is probably significantly weakened. I shall employ a secondary suspension for the hammock to catch me if the toggle splits or breaks. Doing pull tests, I found that a single half-hitch on the toggle sometimes slipped, so I'll use a half-hitch on the other end of the toggle as well, though the ease of unfastening by pulling the loose end is sacrificed thereby. This 5/8" toggle is from the hardware store, and is neither oak nor hickory, so there's all the more reason for a safety net.

    Using a single 4' Amsteel suspension line instead of a a 4' whoopie saves just about the same weight as this toggle, so there is no advantage there. The same setup with Dynaglide would be heavier than the corresponding whoopie. Longer suspension lines would allow greater weight savings using toggles, but perhaps not enough to justify them.

    More later, post-hang.
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    T Bracket

    In lieu of a PVC T fitting, one could use a T Bracket found at your local hardware store. The 3" size are $2.47 for 2. Bonus is they come pre drilled. Don't know the strength of these though.
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    I suppose a simple bowline knot around my carabiner at the hammock's head would prevent a hard fall if the toggle failed catastrophically.

    I see nothing but positive things in this technique.

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    Ok I had to join in on the fun. I used a whoopie hook. I pull the loop through the hole and then put the free end in the loop. That way I get the safety of the hook and the adjustablility of the toggle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch View Post
    Ok I had to join in on the fun. I used a whoopie hook. I pull the loop through the hole and then put the free end in the loop. That way I get the safety of the hook and the adjustablility of the toggle.

    That'll work all day long!

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    While people are saying, “There is peace and security,” then sudden destruction will come upon them as labor pains come upon a pregnant woman, and they will not escape. (1 Thessalonians 5:3 ESV)

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    Quote Originally Posted by MDSH View Post
    That'll work all day long!

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    The hole needs to be a little bigger so it adjust easier. I think it is lighter than the dowels you guys are using and the hook will not slip off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch View Post
    The hole needs to be a little bigger so it adjust easier. I think it is lighter than the dowels you guys are using and the hook will not slip off.
    Will this work with the thinner Dynaglide?
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