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    Since tree straps are second next on the construction list, this thread popping up is just wonderfully time sensitive..

    Technically, which is stronger - a bar tack or a square with an x in given the same thread??

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    I've always used 4 bars and I’m up to two years without making a creator due to stitch failure. I’m a DIY obsessed individual so I’ve dropped for other reasons but never a tree strap popping. Being grounded is very "Zen" when you’re lying flat on back, looking up at the canopy and wondering how long you’re going to go without breathing. Ok, little over the top but, no matter how you stitch it up, I’d gear test over soft or padded ground.

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    Stitching on Tree Straps

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    I really like the way you did that loop. How's it holding up? What made you decide to do it that way?

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    Quote Originally Posted by [o]TTeR View Post
    I've always used 4 bars and Iím up to two years without making a creator due to stitch failure. Iím a DIY obsessed individual so Iíve dropped for other reasons but never a tree strap popping. Being grounded is very "Zen" when youíre lying flat on back, looking up at the canopy and wondering how long youíre going to go without breathing. Ok, little over the top but, no matter how you stitch it up, Iíd gear test over soft or padded ground.

    Those straps are pretty!

    Yeah man, I have had some out in the weather since I made them, over some very soft ground. I am gonna see what happens with that. I have been laying in it every day or every other day. I am testing these for a hammock camping class project, so I DO NOT want them to fail under that circumstance. I would rather fall first. I think that they are good to go though. I did 4's and 5's. I am gonna try "x"s and box them in next time, but I have 20 sets of straps, so it may be a while before I make more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Old Boot View Post
    Since tree straps are second next on the construction list, this thread popping up is just wonderfully time sensitive..

    Technically, which is stronger - a bar tack or a square with an x in given the same thread??
    Sometime ago I found this on HF and saved the picture. This question on how to sew straps comes up every so often. If you only have a straight stitch machine, as I do, then the "W" pattern is very easy to do. I have done several this way without issue.

    Like John Sawyer said, SYOS.

    Otter, those are the prettiest straps I've ever seen. Sweet. We should expect no less from the one who has 4 hammocks in his media room.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Detail Man View Post
    Sometime ago I found this on HF and saved the picture. This question on how to sew straps comes up every so often. If you only have a straight stitch machine, as I do, then the "W" pattern is very easy to do. I have done several this way without issue.

    Like John Sawyer said, SYOS.

    Otter, those are the prettiest straps I've ever seen. Sweet. We should expect no less from the one who has 4 hammocks in his media room.
    Detail Man! Thank you for that info. That is good stuff, there!
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    I like to use a contrasting color thread so if mine do start to come loose or show signs or wear it will easier to spot.
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    Re: Stitching on Tree Straps

    I over killed mine lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Detail Man View Post
    If you only have a straight stitch machine, as I do, then the "W" pattern is very easy to do. I have done several this way without issue.
    This PDF of a caving publication called "Nylon Highway" indicates that the elongated "W" is strongest. Pages 12-15 include tests of several stitches.

    I think I found the link via HF a while back, but not sure. I use the "W" with 1.5” polyester seatbelt webbing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Old Boot View Post
    Since tree straps are second next on the construction list, this thread popping up is just wonderfully time sensitive..

    Technically, which is stronger - a bar tack or a square with an x in given the same thread??
    I've done the double box method, the parallel stitch method, and the W method. For me the parallel stitches are esiest to get right so that's what I do. I don't think that it matters much for our purposes as long as its all one continuous piece of thread. If you get at least 2 complete wraps around the tree most of the stess is on the strap itself in the first wrap so the stitching isn't carrying the full load.

    I towed a car about 3 miles with my truck using only 1" polypro webbing and bowline knots. Had serious stress marks in the webbing at the knots afterwards but it worked in a pinch.
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