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It isn't that UQ's don't work with them. They work quite well. You see me use my LeighLo all summer long. I just go to pads when it gets real cold. Bulky for sure, but real warm.
Sounds like you've discovered the proper use of a vapor barrier.
You will want a closed cell foam pad. They sell them for about 15.00 at WalMart. Mine is 72x24x1/2 inch. Unless you are going to use one of the blow up/self inflating ground pads. That you will want to let some air out of.
You will most likely want an SPE. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7NZV...1C2AA8&index=1 and check about minute 8 of video. Shug knows his hammock stuff. Speer no longer makes SPE but they are easy to sew up or you can get one from ENO http://www.eaglesnestoutfittersinc.c...uct/A4011.html
here are a couple pics of my phoneix 20 degree uq with 2 oz overstuff with my claytor jungle hammock a few weeks ago.it got down to 27 degrees with very very heavy frost.i been winter hammock camping 8 years now.i have never been cold until i switched from my pad to an underquilt.i wasted money on the switch.i guess i been a pad user to long lolneo
the matrix has you
Plus, pad use in a JRB BMBH double layer can be just great, really starts getting quite competitive with a quilt for overall comfort.
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