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    why are synthetic under quilts warmer than down

    why are synthetic under quilts warmer than down.my 30 jarbrige river work well down to 30.my 20 degree phoniex with 2 oz over fill.leaves me cold and very dissapointed in the upper 20's.neo
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    My take on it, down has the ability to shift and move within a baffle where synthetic does not because its a continuous fabric unlike down clusters. Down also takes a little more to set up, shake out, etc which could cause voids in coverage. The other thing that could happen is compressing the down due to suspension set ups. Food for thought i guess.
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    One mans opinion, YMMV.

    Different conditions (humidity, wind, quilt adjustment) could be factors as we can't do side-by-side testing in identical conditions.

    If a particular material / make / model works for you consistantly, count your blessings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by neo View Post
    why are synthetic under quilts warmer than down.my 30 jarbrige river work well down to 30.my 20 degree phoniex with 2 oz over fill.leaves me cold and very dissapointed in the upper 20's.neo
    I am rapidly beginning to hate this quilt.but I love my hammock gear top quilt.I wish I got the 0 degree phoniex now.neo
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    Not sure dude. I have a 20 deg Pheonix with 1 oz over and I have slept with it and my 20 deg Burrow to 15 and was quite toasty. I am a furnace when I sleep so may that comes in too but I could not be happier. Good luck.

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    I think, like most things, it is more about quality. Good quality synthetic can be better than poor quality down and vice versa. The main strength of down is its compressibility though. I think most consider synthetic to be an all around better insulator, but it will not compress nearly as much. Synthetic also tends to be a bit heavier.
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    Quote Originally Posted by neo View Post
    why are synthetic under quilts warmer than down.my 30 jarbrige river work well down to 30.my 20 degree phoniex with 2 oz over fill.leaves me cold and very dissapointed in the upper 20's.neo
    I believe that should be worded....For you..
    I have found my uqs to be spot on with their rating.. Everyone is different though.. I have also found that for me.. A warmer uq lets me get away with a lighter tq..
    We would be one step closer to world peace, if everyone slept in a hammock..

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    Down quilts, synthetic quilts, pads doesn't matter as long as you are out there enjoying it! You can even use a tent if you want I will still hang out with you.

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    Well, if you hate the down uq, feel free to send it to me. I'll give it a good home...

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    i hate tents lol.i been hammock camping since may 2002.been 4 season hammocking since 2004.i have never gotten cold till last month using an under quilt.i wasted good money lolneo
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