S to S "sil" bag material & tarp questions!

**Suzyqhoo** · 03-07-2007, 22:14

So I have an XXS orange (dunno if that matters a hill o' beans) really, really lightweight silnylon drawstring Sea to Summit brand bag.

Question #1: Does anyone know what weight this silnylon is? I scored about 14 yards of the Wally World version of this (Sea to Summit bag) material.

Question #2: Is this weight what everyone makes their hammocking tarps out of?

I went back to the same Wal-mart yesterday (one month after the initial score) to see if they had any more silnylon left...and lo and behold, I got some more, but it is heavier.

I am jumping up and down ready to make one of Black Knight's Black Cat tarps (Mom sews and has agreed to help! Lucky me!)

Thanks for any insight you can provide!

Suz

**Coffee** · 03-07-2007, 22:29

I have to seatosummit bags and really like them. I can't say for sure, but I think it is the standard 1.1 oz before coating 1.3 oz total weight per square yard sil.

My tarp is out of walmart sil. Works great for me so far. If you make your own bags consider using a buckle closure like a dry bag. Add a little seam seal and you have something conpletly waterproof. I thought about doing that, but I do not think I can do it and have the weight the same as the seatosummit ones.

BTW, if you come across extra sil I will be more than happy to take it off your hands.

**blackbishop351** · 03-07-2007, 23:14

Originally Posted by Suzy

So I have an XXS orange (dunno if that matters a hill o' beans) really, really lightweight silnylon drawstring Sea to Summit brand bag.

Question #1: Does anyone know what weight this silnylon is? I scored about 14 yards of the Wally World version of this (Sea to Summit bag) material.

Question #2: Is this weight what everyone makes their hammocking tarps out of?

I went back to the same Wal-mart yesterday (one month after the initial score) to see if they had any more silnylon left...and lo and behold, I got some more, but it is heavier.

Thanks for any insight you can provide!

Suz

You're more lucky than you know - Walmart sil is kind of the Holy Grail of the DIY-er!

Originally Posted by Suzy

I am jumping up and down ready to make one of Black Knight's Black Cat tarps (Mom sews and has agreed to help! Lucky me!)

Enjoy the directions, happy sewing, and I'll forgive you for the misnomer!

Welcome and let me know how it turns out!

**slowhike** · 03-08-2007, 06:53

yeah, like black knight said<g>, silnlon from wal-mart is hard to find.
what people sometimes find & think is silnylon is actually DWR treated 1.1oz ripstop nylon. so be sure it's sil before you start your tarp.

**sparkysko** · 03-09-2007, 20:09

Originally Posted by slowhike

yeah, like black knight said<g>, silnlon from wal-mart is hard to find.
what people sometimes find & think is silnylon is actually DWR treated 1.1oz ripstop nylon. so be sure it's sil before you start your tarp.

Indeed. I thought I had sil for the longest time, until I went to REI and saw some *real* silnylon stuff. Sil is very noisy and crinkly, like wax paper or tin foil. I've actually seen some cat toys made out of this stuff for the fact that it makes crinkly noises.

**Jazilla** · 03-08-2007, 08:34

I recently found 16yrd of sil at Wal-mart. Its banana yellow. I am thinking of making a Yellow Blackcat (If that makes any since).

**stoikurt** · 03-08-2007, 10:00

Originally Posted by Jazilla

I recently found 16yrd of sil at Wal-mart. Its banana yellow. I am thinking of making a Yellow Blackcat (If that makes any since).

I think that would make it a YellowCat!

**txulrich** · 03-08-2007, 10:12

Originally Posted by stoikurt

I think that would make it a YellowCat!

That would be a cat with a yellow streak, AKA a scaredy cat

**headchange4u** · 03-08-2007, 14:42

Originally Posted by Jazilla

I recently found 16yrd of sil at Wal-mart. Its banana yellow. I am thinking of making a Yellow Blackcat (If that makes any since).

I think you can count stealth camping out.

**Suzyqhoo** · 03-09-2007, 13:47

Thanks for all the info everyone!

Originally Posted by blackbishop351

You're more lucky than you know - Walmart sil is kind of the Holy Grail of the DIY-er!

Enjoy the directions, happy sewing, and I'll forgive you for the misnomer!

Welcome and let me know how it turns out!

Thank you Blackbishop! Sorry for the slip! I had Chess on my mind!!!

Originally Posted by hammock engineer

One more thing on the sea to summit bags, they are siliconized cordura and not sil. But sil works pretty good. I am thinking they made them out of cordura because of the spray you get from sil under heavy pressure. Not a good thing in a dry bag.

I noticed the tag on my S to S bag saying cordura and I wondered if it was just the black strap??? Interesting that it is the actual material!

The WM mystery material that I scored, appears to be just like the S to S bag...same small squares, can't blow through it, cut edges do not ravel, and it passes the bowl & water test (the ladies in the fabric dept. let me put a puddle of water on the fabric there in the store too!) So, I think it is the Silnylon from all the descriptions people have given.

From one of the doggie commericals on tv: "I'm soooooo Happppeeeeeeee!!!"

Thanks again for all the info!

Happy Hangin'!

Suz