I just used mine on our last outing, it was crowded losts of bush, dead stuff, plus new growth popping out. I had a lot of trouble finding a place to hang my rig without damaging anything. I used four of my clip-ons to get my rainfly to protect me without damaging any fresh growth on the plants around me. It was not a pretty set up, however it worked great, we were on a area just accross a bay from British Columbia, windy, damp and lush. I liked the clips so well I am going to buy another set. That way I can loan a couple to my daughter if the need arises.