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    Mountainhanger,

    First off, what Mac said is entirely true. It fits a little different than a similarly rated UQ. Just takes some experimenting to find out what works for you.

    I have occasionally gotten condensation inside my Shamu. It isn't usually enough to wake me up; just enough to notice when packing up the next morning. I have found over the last two years and IDK maybe 24 nights in the Shamu that while IX is a good insulator it isn't the best thermal regulator. I think that because of it's light weight we expect it to perform like down, but down it is not. For me, it works works very best at varying degrees of venting between 50-70degF. With conscious effort to not over heat myself I can get to 40degF, but that is the source of the condensation I'm sure is over heating; for myself.

    Other things I've learn...

    Don't use an UQ protector, like dri ducks, or silny. The IX (even with scrim) doesn't soak up much water. I''ve found IX needs all the airflow it can get to better regulate tempurature. I even reccomend not having a full coveravge (to the ground) tarp; you need some airflow.
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    Mac, what are the demensions of the Shamu? Can u do an extra layer to get down to 30 degrees, and how much would that effect the weight? Thanks, sean

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jewelers View Post
    Mac, what are the demensions of the Shamu?
    I don't have the exact dimensions handy. It's 50 inches at the widest point, and about six feet long, perhaps a bit less.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jewelers View Post
    Can u do an extra layer to get down to 30 degrees, and how much would that effect the weight? Thanks, sean
    Thing1 and I have no trouble getting to freezing with a Baby Orca and a 5-in-1 Jerry Chair, but we are warm sleepers, and we use down top blankets.

    I have found that adding layers will greatly increase the likelihood of condensation. It also adds a lot to the bulk, and makes it hard to stow.

    I recommend using vapor permeable insulation below freezing.

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    Aaron, thanks for the advice, I of course will continue to use so i can adjust properly, and i think perhaps your correct as far as thermal regulation goes. i was concerned about airflow from under tarp, but i thought it would rob me of any insulation value, but now i see i may be wrong..experience will come i am sure, but i can say that i love the coverage and the weight of the shamu, and for the temp range its hard to beat..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jewelers View Post
    Mac, what are the demensions of the Shamu? Thanks, sean
    I just measured mine...

    Tie out to tie out width 25.5"
    Center width 41"
    Center length 66"

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    Last edited by AaronAlso; 04-10-2013 at 11:35. Reason: corrected units
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    Quote Originally Posted by MacEntyre View Post
    I don't have the exact dimensions handy. It's 50 inches at the widest point, and about six feet long, perhaps a bit less.


    Thing1 and I have no trouble getting to freezing with a Baby Orca and a 5-in-1 Jerry Chair, but we are warm sleepers, and we use down top blankets.

    I have found that adding layers will greatly increase the likelihood of condensation. It also adds a lot to the bulk, and makes it hard to stow.

    I recommend using vapor permeable insulation below freezing.

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    Thanks Mac, can You do a specific color like say multicam for the Shamu?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AaronAlso View Post
    I just measured mine...

    Tie out to tie out width 25.5"
    Center width 41"
    Center length 6'6"

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    Thanks a bunch

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jewelers View Post
    Thanks Mac, can You do a specific color like say multicam for the Shamu?
    I have black (outside) and white (inside) in stock. Email me to arrange a special order.

    Quote Originally Posted by AaronAlso View Post
    Tie out to tie out width 25.5"
    Center width 41"
    Center length 6'6"
    How old is yours?

    I enlargened the pattern not too long ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jewelers View Post
    Thanks a bunch
    Ok this just happened!

    I work third shift and was half passed out when I posted that tbis morning. I go to sleep for a few bours and wake when it hits me. I typed that last measurement wrong on The forum. 6'6" has hence been corrected to 66".

    Mac,

    It is at least 2 years old I sure.
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    From your PM it is clear that yours is an early model. The current Shamu and Baby Orca are wider in the middle and at the ends, and they have end channels. The 5-in-1 Jerry Chair, which is a modified Baby Orca, has side channels as well.
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