I can now consider mysef a Hanger. Spent the weekend with the scout troop and strung up my new WBBB and Superfly. Thanks to all the helpful info and videos on this site it was very successful. I was a little worried about CBS as temps dipped into the low 40's but stayed warm with only a Wally World CCF pad (I had splurged and spent the extra $5 to get the semi egg crate) and 20 deg sleeping bag. My son also hung successfully in his new HH Expedition. The only glitch was that I need to remember to bring a strap extender (we have really big trees here in the PNW). Luckily I had a ratchet strap in the back of the truck.