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    Quote Originally Posted by Grampy View Post
    That is good advice about trimming what isn't used on a test hike. There are some non-essentials that I will be taking whether they are used or not -i.e. beast repellant. ^_^ With that, it is better to have it and not need it I say.
    One of the things that you will shed on the trail is fear of beasts. Maybe it will even happen on a test hike. Just sayin ....

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    OK, so I'm ex-Army. I get where you're coming from, trust me. Up until two years ago my pack still weighed 50lbs.

    It's been going down steadily, with the use of more modern, lightweight options.

    I wanted to agree with the thought someone had of a Kindle, or a Nook to replace your books. Load it up with reading material, charge up when you're in civilization.

    Compromise on the hatchet...go with a small machete if you just HAVE to HAVE a large cutting implement. There's a small Gator machete by Gerber that's pretty cheap, and a lot lighter weight than a hatchet. Doubles as a saw and chopping tool, as well as a hole digger if needed. Use a rock or a tree limb if you need a hammer.

    I don’t see any wet-weather gear.

    Ditch the dry bags for a couple of 3 mil, 55gal trash bags. They can double as a ground cloth, dry bag, emergency rain gear, etc…much more multi-use and lighter weight option.

    The flint (Ferrocerium?) is fine…a Bic is better. A Bic in your pocket and one in your bag is best.

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    Welcome and thanks from another old dog.
    Somewhere in this train of info you asked about how to mail stuff to yourself. Two planning books for the AT have all the info you need -1) AT Workbook for Planning Thru-Hikes and 2)AT Thru-hike Planner. Both have the Post Office locations for all trail towns and planning sheets you can copy and use for about anything you need to figure out, including all the mileage information, both north and south. Then there are other trail data books that are more useful on the trail as they much more compact. You can cut out the sections you need, stick them in a ziplock bag (freezer style) and they fit in the belt pockets of the Catalyst. Mail ahead the next batch.

    +1 on those folks who said do some short shakedown hikes, a few days at most to figure out what works for you. You will find out as others have stated, lots of stuff you start out with when getting into this "pleasureable" experience are not needed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hang_time View Post
    There's no way all of that comes in less than 15lbs. Not a chance.

    Sharpening stone? Hatchet? Three books that you don't *need*. Overkill.

    Mat? Pad? You don't need any of these unless you anticipate going to ground, and you'd save a lot of weight by investing in an underquilt (UQ).
    So far it does come to less than 15 lbs but just under -minus the clothes being worn. All of it fits within a 2'x2' square on my floor. However, I have been weighing the advice as my final product must be 15lbs or less.

    I was considering a mat or pad or underquilt -not so much an all-three consideration but a one over the others. FireInMyBones has given me some advice on the quilts offline. They are a little more expensive but the weight and size is a major desire.

    Thank you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Owl View Post

    I don’t see any wet-weather gear.

    Ditch the dry bags for a couple of 3 mil, 55gal trash bags. They can double as a ground cloth, dry bag, emergency rain gear, etc…much more multi-use and lighter weight option.
    Wet-weather gear has been on my mind.

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    Grampy,

    My 2 cents.
    For wet weather I use DriDucks. They are very lightweight, pack down small, and are affordable. They are good as windbreakers as well. The one drawback for me is that they tend to be a bit fragile - not recommended for bushwhacking.
    If you go with these, be advised that they tend to size big, so if you wear a x-large you might try a large... I like them loose, because I can layer them over thick fleece, but if you like a tighter fit, try them on in the store first. I've seen them at most major sporting goods stores.

    here is a link to their online site so you can see what they look like.

    http://www.froggtoggsraingear.com/DriDucks.shtm

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    Hygiene on the trail

    Quote Originally Posted by Grampy View Post
    What about hygiene and poo disposal? I suspect the hippies would not appreciate a gas burn, and I don't want to carry the stuff...
    Look for this book:

    http://www.amazon.com/****-Woods-Sec.../dp/0898156270

    In the Marines, we normally had a list of "madatory" items in the load-out.
    In the real world, longer distance camping with your own gear is so much better than going to the field with all your mandatory junk in the pack.


    What I teach our Scouts is:
    Take what you need, and need what you take.

    I'd suggest that you do a few camping trips yourself with all your gear and see what you don't use.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dkperdue View Post
    Take what you need, and need what you take.
    I really like the way you put it
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    Quote Originally Posted by gospidey View Post
    Noted. Thank you

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    Quote Originally Posted by dkperdue View Post
    Look for this book:

    http://www.amazon.com/****-Woods-Sec.../dp/0898156270

    In the Marines, we normally had a list of "madatory" items in the load-out.
    In the real world, longer distance camping with your own gear is so much better than going to the field with all your mandatory junk in the pack.


    What I teach our Scouts is:
    Take what you need, and need what you take.

    I'd suggest that you do a few camping trips yourself with all your gear and see what you don't use.
    I look forward to a lightweight pack.

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