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    all secure in sector 7 Shug's Avatar
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    FishinFin's Top Cover for BB and UQ Ideas

    TOP COVER
    Got to sleep out last night in my BB with FishinFinn's untreated ripstop Top Cover.
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    Crawled in about 10PM and my cat joined me ... he loves the hammock and making biscuits on my down bag.... and we snoozed until about 4AM as he needed to go in and was driving me nuts. Temps were around 20 so not too cold for up here in Minnesota.
    I had no frost or condensation!!!! I did vent it by pulling the top back and had my BB zips open about 1/3 rd.
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    It was windy last night and I used my small tarp. The TopCover really cut the wind and provided warmth. It is a wonderful lightweight option. I need to test further in 0 to sub 0 to see more about frost build up.
    UNDERQUILTS
    I have been struggling to get my DIY full UQ to fit the BB to my satisfaction. Last night I decided to put my 1/2 UQ fated to about 25 over the footbox area and it was wonderful!! Way less fussing about.
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    It totally covered the BB foot end and I could put my feet either way with great coverage.
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    I just ordered a Winter Yeti 1/2 UQ and I think I will add my DIY 1/2 UQ to the same shockcord and create a modular UQ for the BB. In essence I would be able to use both in conjunction for real cold weather ... when milder use one or the other. A UQ custom designed for the BB would be terrific ... sort of a custom footbox on the UQ to help it cover the foot area.
    But I think I am going to be happy with the Yeti and using my 1/2 UQ with it on the BB in Winter conditions. Wish I could take the bug net off for winter use just to have less to deal with but that would take away the shelf and I do love that shelf...
    Cooked some breakfast on my Atomic Stove as I fiddled with stuff this morning.
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    Happily off to teach now and then a show tonight ....
    More later BlackBird Squadron.....
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    Very nice!
    I'm with you on the shelf; no net might be nice, but no shelf? Forget it!
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    all secure in sector 7 Shug's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cannibal View Post
    Very nice!
    I'm with you on the shelf; no net might be nice, but no shelf? Forget it!
    My name is Shug and I am a shelf addict......
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shug View Post
    Wish I could take the bug net off for winter use just to have less to deal with but that would take away the shelf and I do love that shelf...
    I have an idea on that, as I would like a net-less winter BB as well. I will get back to you - I think I know a way to do it, but have to spend some time staring at it.

    I think you will be ok with the topcover fully closed - the 1.1 untreated should be breathable enough to avoid condensation. But I'm glad you like it. I thought it might be too light to work effectively. How much does it weigh, and how easy did you find it to attach to your rig?

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    all secure in sector 7 Shug's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by FishinFinn View Post
    I have an idea on that, as I would like a net-less winter BB as well. I will get back to you - I think I know a way to do it, but have to spend some time staring at it.
    I think you will be ok with the topcover fully closed - the 1.1 untreated should be breathable enough to avoid condensation. But I'm glad you like it. I thought it might be too light to work effectively. How much does it weigh, and how easy did you find it to attach to your rig?
    Look forward to that!!!!!!!
    I weighed it at 5.6ozs....... and it was easy to hook up on the BB. I just used two mini-biners (JRB) to hook it to the hammock amsteel. Easy!
    I like it and will more than likely use it more than the silksock.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shug View Post
    I just used two mini-biners (JRB) to hook it to the hammock amsteel. Easy!
    You shouldn't even need the mini-biners. The ggr/draw cord channel end will wrap around the amsteel just past the whipping knot, and the cord lock should then slip through the knot in the shock cord, and be enough to hold it in place. Save like .5 oz, right? Or are you using the min-biners to keep it from sliding backwards over the whipping knots?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FishinFinn View Post
    You shouldn't even need the mini-biners. The ggr/draw cord channel end will wrap around the amsteel just past the whipping knot, and the cord lock should then slip through the knot in the shock cord, and be enough to hold it in place. Save like .5 oz, right? Or are you using the min-biners to keep it from sliding backwards over the whipping knots?
    I was not truly sure how to attach it but your way make sense..... I don't need no .5oz..... Ha ......
    I like the Top cover a lot ... have I said that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by FishinFinn View Post
    ...the 1.1 untreated should be breathable enough to avoid condensation.
    You might be right. There's a lot of water to condense out of your breath, though.

    I used my stock HH fly (not breathable) as a top cover last weekend at 25*... let it hang over the hammock, not tied down. I wondered if being open below would prevent condensation. Not so... each morning, the area right above my face was covered with condensation. My breath rose through the bugnet, and condensed on the fly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shug View Post
    I was not truly sure how to attach it but your way make sense..... I don't need no .5oz..... Ha ......
    I like the Top cover a lot ... have I said that?
    Hey, it should make sense - it's how I built it to work. I tried to save every bit of weight possible on the topcover so a gram weenie would be happy with it, and make it so no additional parts/pieces were needed to install. I should have included a drawing or pic of the installation. By wrapping the ggr/draw channel around the amsteel, it pulls the top cover lower and snugs the hammock body tighter. It's actually an integral part of the design.

    I'm curious as to how cavediver is liking his - I haven't heard a peep from him on it. If you are out there and have had a chance to test it, cavediver - chime in.

    I may make a few more of these if I get time - they are fairly easy to make.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FishinFinn View Post
    I may make a few more of these if I get time - they are fairly easy to make.
    I'd give one a ride if you need another test subject...
    Here, winter is quickly running away and the time of overcover is coming to an end!
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